New Gas Boiler sends bill through the roof

Rubidium

dogshome wrote: »

If your supplier has not been notified or failed to recognise the meter change, and have kept on billing you on an Imperial meter basis your bills will be 183% higher than they should be.

Incorrect. If your supplier has not been notified or failed to recognise the meter change, and have kept on billing you on an Imperial meter basis your bills will be 2.83 times higher than they should be. i.e. nearly three times more.

The correct abbreviation for kilo Watt hour is kWh, not Kwh

A metric meter is marked M3 not cm3

ajbell

The bills will be 183% higher. Or 2.83 times as much.
It's the same thing.Think about it.

Rubidium

ajbell wrote: »

The bills will be 183% higher. Or 2.83 times as much.
It's the same thing.Think about it.

183% expressed as a decimal equals 1.83 not 2.83.

ajbell

You are getting confused with the increase vs multiples.
For instance 3 is a 200% increase on 1 but is 3 times as much as 1.

Eric_Disley

Stop digging, Rubidium. 183% higher = 2.83 times as much.

Anyway, this discussion doesn't help the OP. I think they need to check whether the meter is imperal or metric. They'll be able to tell by looking at the meter and whether it shows "FT3" (imperial) or "M3" (metric) next to the reading.

Then look at their bill and whether they're being charge for metric or imperial units.

If there's a multiple of 2.83 shown on the bill, they'll be being charged for imperial units. If the meter says "M3" and it's a metric meter, the OP is being charge 2.83 times as much as they should be.

dogshome

WOW - What an unexpected spat and thanks for your support Eric Disley

In truth the bill totals will not be 183% higher because the Metric v Imperial calcution only applies to the consumption and not the standing charges.

What's important is that the OP does the easy divide the Kwh charged by meter units used calculation, to establish Metric billing at app.11.2 Kwh per unit, or app. 31.5 for Imperial billing.

I'm sure we all wish that this is the answer to the OP's problem

capwell

Thanks for all the interest and discussion. However I have been reading a number of tales of others who have found that they have considerable increases when they had new "economical"condensing boilers installed.
I am beginning to suspect the the boiler just uses more gas to give the same heat!!!

Mojisola

capwell wrote: »

I have read my meter every month for 10 years so have all monthly usage for the last decade.

capwell wrote: »

I am beginning to suspect the the boiler just uses more gas to give the same heat!!!

As you have the meter readings, has the consumption increased dramatically since the new boiler was installed or just the bills?

Eric_Disley

capwell wrote: »

Thanks for all the interest and discussion. However I have been reading a number of tales of others who have found that they have considerable increases when they had new "economical"condensing boilers installed.
I am beginning to suspect the the boiler just uses more gas to give the same heat!!!

Please ignore what you've read and look at your meter. Does it say "M3" next to the reading or "FT3"?

If it says "M3", the meter is metric.

Look at your bill. There will be an explanation of how your bill was calculated. If the energy company still thinks you've got an imperial meter, you'll see that they've converted your reading from imperial units to metric units, by multiplying it by 2.83 (the "volume conversion factor").

Put simply, if you've got a metric meter, but the energy company thinks it's still imperial, they will be charging you almost 3 times what they should be.

It should only take you a couple of minutes to do this.

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@capwell

Please read what Eric Disley said and check.

I fitted an economical condensing boiler 2 years ago and my gas usage fell by 40% so please do not believe all the horror stories. Check your meter and bill as Eric asked.