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  • Pyxis
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    edited 31 January 2017 at 6:33AM
    I've only ever owned two cars. (Before them, I owned some motorbikes and feet).

    The first one was still driveable after 16 years, but was becoming less reliable for the motorway journeys I was still needing to do, so I bought another. That's now nearly eleven years old, and doing ok. I shall keep it for its duration.

    After that, and I've no idea when it will be, I would love to have an electric car, but it really, really depends on the price coming down and far more charging points being available.
    If that's not a financially viable option, then I guess it will be a hybrid.

    To be honest, I can see the move from petrol etc. taking another lifetime. Petroleum magnates are too powerful. Reminds me of how long it took the government to really denounce tobacco by way of taxation and other legislation, two generations after the medical facts (and thus the cost to the NHS) were common knowledge, and that was really only after they relaxed the licensing laws on alcohol, so recouping the revenues lost from reduced smoking that way. (At the same time switching one health problem for another!)
    Maybe a sugar tax is the way forward after all! :D

    Maybe all the info on city pollution will initiate a stronger drive to push electric car development along, increase demand and to reduce their price, assuming the petroleum magnates will let it, of course.

    I wonder if Texaco will make a return? :D




    I noticed something interesting in a local car park the other day. I saw they had installed a charging point in one of the bays. The sign on it says that while a car is plugged in and charging up, there would be no parking fee to pay. Mind you, if that one space were occupied, I suppose you'd still have to pay to park in a normal bay.

    What I didn't think to look at, though, was how much it costs to charge up in a public bay. I've since heard that it costs an awful lot more than charging the car at home.
    It's not very encouraging, really, is it?
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  • GDB2222
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    I looked at an electric car, but range seems to be a problem still. Getting rather more than half the way to the Norfolk coast from london is not helpful. There are charging points on the way, but not very many, and they might be occupied when you get there.

    We do 4000 miles a year, and 3000 of those are fairly short journeys that an electric car would be great for. We just need an extra battery pack or a generator to tow behind for the longer journeys.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • michaels
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    GDB2222 wrote: »
    I looked at an electric car, but range seems to be a problem still. Getting rather more than half the way to the Norfolk coast from london is not helpful. There are charging points on the way, but not very many, and they might be occupied when you get there.

    We do 4000 miles a year, and 3000 of those are fairly short journeys that an electric car would be great for. We just need an extra battery pack or a generator to tow behind for the longer journeys.
    Tesla or bmw i3 rex.

    Or a phev if your short journeys are mostly less than 30 miles.
    I think....
  • silvercar
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    A friend has a Nissan Leaf. Says the range is vastly extended if you pootle along at 40mph. Also some parking bays in London, not only offer free parking but you can charge the car for free. There is some app on the car's satnav that tells you where the nearest charging points are, these include homes that have installed fast charging points. I think there is a kind of community spirit where you welcome other Leaf drivers to charge at your place.

    The Aygo has a 1 litre engine, motorway driving isn't fun.
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  • GDB2222
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    silvercar wrote: »
    A friend has a Nissan Leaf. Says the range is vastly extended if you pootle along at 40mph. Also some parking bays in London, not only offer free parking but you can charge the car for free. There is some app on the car's satnav that tells you where the nearest charging points are, these include homes that have installed fast charging points. I think there is a kind of community spirit where you welcome other Leaf drivers to charge at your place.

    The Aygo has a 1 litre engine, motorway driving isn't fun.


    But if you are going 140 miles to the coast, you really don't want to pootle along at 40 mph. And going a few miles off the main road to sit in someone's driveway for an hour doesn't appeal either. Do they invite you in for a cup of tea?

    I don't fancy spending £70k on a Tesla or BMW, thanks. I'd be more interested in the Aygo.
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  • ivyleaf
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    vivatifosi wrote: »
    I thought you were going to say loads of wives, all of whom were smarter.

    That too, of course :D
  • michaels
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    GDB2222 wrote: »
    But if you are going 140 miles to the coast, you really don't want to pootle along at 40 mph. And going a few miles off the main road to sit in someone's driveway for an hour doesn't appeal either. Do they invite you in for a cup of tea?

    I don't fancy spending £70k on a Tesla or BMW, thanks. I'd be more interested in the Aygo.

    The Beemer is only about 30k but is fairly tiny.

    We love our leaf and will be very sad in May if there are no silly cheap finance deals available and we have to replace it with something else. Even the newest bigget battery leafs can only go reliably 85 miles between charges in cold wet windy weather on fast roads but driven carefully in town traffic even our smaller battery one is pretty safe for an 80 mile round trip. The very comparable Hyundai Ioniq can go a bit further - 120 reliably but there are no crazy fiance offers available on it.
    I think....
  • chris_m
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    Told you I was poor! :)

    Can't be too bad if you've got to pay some tax.
    I don't have to mess around with allowances (not that I have any qualifying things) to not pay any tax at all ;)

    Granted, I did pay some last month, but that was because they revalued and increased my pension, then backdated it to Oct 2015 and paid all the arrears in December. Still, I should get that £43 back eventually, got some of it this month so it looks like it'll be drip-fed ;)
  • michaels
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    edited 31 January 2017 at 5:26PM
    Sorry PN, brain not engaged before posting

    Are you not already there (max state pension) with NI contributions?
    I think....
  • PasturesNew
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    chris_m wrote: »
    Can't be too bad if you've got to pay some tax.
    No tax to pay, it's a return. Filling in a return doesn't mean you have to pay tax. You declare all your income; if there is tax to pay, you pay it - if you don't earn enough, there's no tax to pay.

    The sum is the total income, from all sources, in that tax year :(
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