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Nice People Thread No. 15, a Cyber Summer
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Maybe they need the "three word address" system.
I was playing around with that when I first heard about it some months ago - and thought how brilliant it is at absolutely defining a spot. At the coast there are many spots without postcodes, useless for letting people know where you mean.
The three letter addressing could even pin down a row of, say, 300 beach huts to being just one!0 -
Ah, but preparation is the key.
I work out the route on the map, then make a list of the key roads and junctions, with roundabouts indicated by a circle and things like "Turn L at A123"
"Turn right at O onto B234"
"Second left to Madagascar Road"
Etc. etc.
That list is then inserted onto a pad attached by suckers to the windscreen just slightly below my main line of sight.
Whenever I need to stop at lights or in traffic queues, I recheck my next turn-off or junction from that list right in front of me.
I must admit, it is more difficult in central London, because the distances between junctions are very short indeed, and if you are in the wrong lane, you are trapped and can be forced to go in a direction you don't want to! Plus all the one-ways can make life difficult, even with a map, as not all maps show the one-ways.
Even without Google Earth, though, I still did manage to navigate through London, even through the City, :eek:, without a Satnav, and I still don't have one.
If I'd made that kind of list for that journey, it would have been too long to pick out any one item when glancing quickly down. The end of the M4 to docklands is an hour of the kind of difficult London driving you mention. My problems occurred when I was trying to do something like "turn left when you get to the A123". If you don't notice the A123, or it isn't signed, then you go merrily on your way for miles before realising you have no idea where you are. That's why I like to have the whole map - even if I get off the route, I'm still not off the area about which I have some information.
I've never had an actual satnav, but I've had smart phones for a few years, all of which have come with inbuilt satnav apps, which have been more than sufficient for what I need.PasturesNew wrote: »As a solely lone traveller/driver, what is increasingly "the issue" is that if you do spot you've gone a bit wrong or it's not how you expected, there's nowhere to pull over and have a look. Once you're on the roads these days you have to keep going. Any kerb has yellow lines, or other signs indicating no stopping; traffic is urgent and close; there are no free parking spots to pull off into; fewer shops/premises have car parks to pull over into.
You end up knowing you need to check the map ... but you can't as you can't stop... and, in an effort to find somewhere to stop, you have to actively leave what is the known route...
Add in tiny maps and bad reading eyesight and you're doomed.
Exactly. This is how I feel. Although my reading eyesight didn't start to go until after I'd got the sort of phone that provides me with a satnav.At least they (usually) follow a logical order, unlike Iqaluit in Nunavat.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/disability-38132001
The road I grew up on always confuses people. Starting from the top end, the numbers go consecutively from 1-32 all the way down the left hand side. The right hand side doesn't start having houses for a while (it's just backs of properties on the next road over) and then starts from 33 and carries on down to the end of the road where it's 60-something, I think. Last time I was there visiting my dad I met a lost and confused person who wanted number 30, and thought he ought to be pretty close when he found 34, but was in fact at completely the wrong end of the road.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
Maybe they need the "three word address" system.
I don't understand that system. That particular square is daring.lion.race. Why isn't the neighbouring square daring.lion.<something else>? It's actually 3 completely different words.
Change one letter in your original location, and it takes you from central London to Northern Australia.
daring.lion.race -> daring.lion.brace
https://map.what3words.com/daring.lion.braceNo reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
I don't understand that system. That particular square is daring.lion.race. Why isn't the neighbouring square daring.lion.<something else>? It's actually 3 completely different words.
Change one letter in your original location, and it takes you from central London to Northern Australia.
daring.lion.race -> daring.lion.brace
https://map.what3words.com/daring.lion.brace
As I understand it, the words are chosen by an algorithm. They're not meant to be logical to the human mind, just memorable. The only point is to be able to give people a precise location in a format that the human brain can easily remember, and all other considerations have been sacrificed in favour of making things easy to retain in your brain.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
As I understand it, the words are chosen by an algorithm. They're not meant to be logical to the human mind, just memorable. The only point is to be able to give people a precise location in a format that the human brain can easily remember, and all other considerations have been sacrificed in favour of making things easy to retain in your brain.
If you say 'meet you at daring.lion.race', but the other person hears daring.lion.brace, he'll end up 12000 miles away.
It'll really ruin his week.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
This article in one of the local rags made me chuckle;
http://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/lakes/Traffic-update-Disruption-near-Bowness-4ae88fff-a21f-404c-91df-1839452246fa-ds
The ferry in question is a flippin' chain ferry, aka floating bridge.Motorists wanting to cross Windermere via the Bowness vehicle ferry will have to seek an alternate route.
Foggy conditions on the lake mean the ferry which connects the B5285 between Bowness and Far Sawrey is not in action.
Drivers are advised to plan ahead, and try and find an alternative route to their destination.
They are not exactly going to get lost halfway across, are they?
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This article in one of the local rags made me chuckle;
http://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/lakes/Traffic-update-Disruption-near-Bowness-4ae88fff-a21f-404c-91df-1839452246fa-ds
The ferry in question is a flippin' chain ferry, aka floating bridge.
They are not exactly going to get lost halfway across, are they?
:rotfl:
Elfin Safety says they have to be able to see things in the way?No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
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The ferry in question is a flippin' chain ferry, aka floating bridge.
They are not exactly going to get lost halfway across, are they?
Fog probably means they're at risk of people going across their route crashing into them. Chain ferries have to rely a LOT on other users seeing them and going the right way round them - and chain ferries are keeping an eye out.... but it still all goes horribly wrong at times, with windboarders and small boats crashing into them and people being sucked underneath.
Here are a few random stories:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2152610/Teenage-girls-desperate-fight-life-clinging-ferry-speedboat-struck-it.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/man-pulled-under-sandbanks-ferry-and-another-left-adrift-at-sea-after-dinghy-collides-with-vessel-in-9537093.html
And those occur in good visibility.0
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