Nice People Thread No. 15, a Cyber Summer

vivatifosi

While I was in the queue in the post office today, I overheard a conversation between a young mum and her mother over their child/grandchild.

Daughter: "Mum, I've told you, stop feeding him rubbish. Everything you give him is full of sugar."
Mum: "But it's only a few hundreds and thousands."

Amused me anyway.

Doozergirl

michaels wrote: »

Why would I want to disguise it?

I used to play rugby for my school but it now has safety concerns.

You can wear prejudice with pride, but holding any kind of resentment is like holding a burning rock and expecting it to hurt the other person.

Holding a resentment to a generalised group of people is ridiculous because there's no foundation to build it on and yet it hurts you.

So, no, I don't see the point in disguising it, but I would seek to remove it because it's pointless. And not very Nice.

The introduction of contact in rugby is really well managed at clubs for the little ones and it's a great idea to get them involved early and learn over time under control than it is chucking them in later at school. There's risk associated with everything. Ironically, there are probably less X5 drivers with personal plates than at football. Lots of solicitors and doctors though. And surveyors, for some reason.

Pyxis

I'm not sure I'm following what's going on here.

I thought Michaels was a bit upset because an extra-curricular football activity for eight-year-olds is being turned into a league-tables heirarchy. That seems to me to be a fairly legitimate concern, especially if you have forked out cash for one type of activity and it's turning into something completely different.

(Have I missed something? )



Michaels, is the chap in charge the sole person in charge, or is there a 'committee' of helpers? If the former, I feel you you could quite legitimately raise your concerns with the guy, and if he persists in his new approach, that you could ask for a portion of your money back, as that's not what you signed up for, after all.
You signed up for a group of eight-year olds to enjoy playing football, not for a number of them to have to stand on the touchline and watch, because they're "not good enough". Surely the ones who aren't good enough are the ones that need more practice and coaching, anyway?
If the latter, then a general chat with them might help?

Sounds like there's some ego-feeding going on with this guy.

Doozergirl

Posts get edited, Pyxis. You missed something.

Pyxis

Doozergirl wrote: »

Posts get edited, Pyxis. You missed something.

I had read it before it was edited.
Still flummoxed.


Never mind.

PasturesNew

Pyxis wrote: »

I'm not sure I'm following what's going on here.

I thought (

I thought the same as you: signed up ... now it's different/changed.

GDB2222

He's more concerned about general unfairness. And I totally agree.

michaels

Pyxis wrote: »

I'm not sure I'm following what's going on here.

I thought Michaels was a bit upset because an extra-curricular football activity for eight-year-olds is being turned into a league-tables heirarchy. That seems to me to be a fairly legitimate concern, especially if you have forked out cash for one type of activity and it's turning into something completely different.

(Have I missed something? )



Michaels, is the chap in charge the sole person in charge, or is there a 'committee' of helpers? If the former, I feel you you could quite legitimately raise your concerns with the guy, and if he persists in his new approach, that you could ask for a portion of your money back, as that's not what you signed up for, after all.
You signed up for a group of eight-year olds to enjoy playing football, not for a number of them to have to stand on the touchline and watch, because they're "not good enough". Surely the ones who aren't good enough are the ones that need more practice and coaching, anyway?
If the latter, then a general chat with them might help?

Sounds like there's some ego-feeding going on with this guy.

I think you have the gist of it.

I have two issues:
1) It is very unfair on those who signed up thinking it was a team for everyone to be told that actually only the best will get to play reguarly and the others will only get called upon when they are needed to make up the numbers
2) I personally think that life is not about beating other people but about enjoying taking part; that what matters is doing ones best not showing one is better than someone else. I'd rather paly well and enjoy it and lose than grind out a win. Given that in most sporting events there will be a loser as well as a winner it sems pretty important that the losers enjoy taking part as well, otherwise who will the winners have to compete against? I would rather DS was playing in a team where this was the ethos rather than 'we will be alpha, we will demonstrate it by beating everyone else even if it means some of our team have to suffer'.

This then feeds in to my noting that for some people, inscurity means it is important to demonstrate at every moment just how much of a winner they are for example by driving the most expensive car with extra money spent on number plates etc to make sure everyone is looking at them and realising that they are winners. DG took objection to this on the grounds that if that is what makes them happy what business is it of mine to comment.

SingleSue

I'm just my normal confuzzled self......I always miss stuff, either people have edited their posts or deleted them but people are still commenting about them, confuzzles the hell out of me. A lot of the time, it's like I'm back to 1980/81 when people in class (including the teacher) were discussing who shot JR and I didn't have a blooming scoobie what anyone was going on about.

Doozergirl

I know what michaels is concerned with and I would be too.

But I also know what I am concerned with. The last time time I checked, this was the nice people thread. It was very clearly there in square brackets, it is not now. The man's behaviour is not okay but it is because he is thoughtless, not because of a stereotype of the type of job he has or the car he drives.

Michaels thinks it is okay, I do not. For people now to be questioning a conversation about what is not even there now is frustrating but I don't come on this thread to read snidy generalisations about groups of people.

Enough already. I clearly need a break from this thread.