Nice People Thread No. 15, a Cyber Summer

oldandhappy

started my two weeks only of cutting down kinda of diet....Daughter will arrive then all nice and slim all that serious swimming and stress.... I am not a good size widthwise really but happy to be tall;)....had a salad sarnie for lunch no add ons to that either:mad:

oldandhappy

michaels wrote: »

I have been fairly vocal on the minimum wage debates about the consequences of pricing the least productive out of the labour market.

This is what I think happens in France where firing is difficult and expensive and the result is an underclass who are unemployed and see no prospect of this changing - basically in France unemployment has been above 10% for a long time whereas it has fallen to 5% in the UK.

And this unemployed group is not spread at random across the population but is self reinforcing in deprived areas with low expectations and low ambition which also tend to be high immigration areas where the issue of low skills is being perpetuated across generations.

Of course it is a trade off, the same laws mean for those employed conditions are good and expensive labour means productivity is high and thus gdp per head is high so the 'haves' do better but at the expense of social dislocation.

The UK minimum wage increases may cause some of the same problems whilst solving others - the current system whereby employing someone is cheap for the employer and the govt subsidizes through tax credits a minimum quality of life means that unemployment is low but is obviously expensive for tax payers and in a way subsidizes employers. However if the alternative is the french system of productive employees only and and an unemployed underclass ripe for radicalisation then perhaps we need to take a more holistic view of what is best?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/26/why-france-labour-reforms-proved-so-contentious


the regular protests are going to slow it down even more....


not sure about radicaliation theory...there are a hell of a lot of various foreigners living here likewise in Spain....

michaels

oldandhappy wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/26/why-france-labour-reforms-proved-so-contentious


the regular protests are going to slow it down even more....


not sure about radicaliation theory...there are a hell of a lot of various foreigners living here likewise in Spain....

Not sure about Spain but here most immigrants have jobs and know there are jobs available whereas in France once you are out of the Labour force, especially if you are an immigrant, that is where you stay.

Pyxis

Just heard on the news that the driver of the lorry actually drove straight at a carousel with children on it. :(:(:(:(
Can't bear it.

Doozergirl

Pyxis wrote: »

Oh dear!




Are you sure, though?

Looks more like a nice piece of salami to me.

Michaels? Do we need to reply for you?! Nice piece of salami?

oldandhappy

michaels wrote: »

Not sure about Spain but here most immigrants have jobs and know there are jobs available whereas in France once you are out of the Labour force, especially if you are an immigrant, that is where you stay.

Spain also...British people work for themselves mainly or set up a business...we where close to Benidorm and not so far away was Torrevieja...full of British People working for British People...Bars where the obvious choice when we had a place there in the mid 80' until early 2000's but many went to the wall during the recession of course....same here Brits working for Brits. Husbands younger Brother started working here 6 odd years ago roofing and progressed to the easier job of gardening...he gets loads of work from the Brits here...not the French though.

Pyxis

Doozergirl wrote: »

Michaels? Do we need to reply for you?! Nice piece of salami?

Just meant, I wasn't sure if it were spam.



Although it is pretty much the end of term, isn't it?

Doozergirl

Pyxis wrote: »

Just meant, I wasn't sure if it were spam.



Although it is pretty much the end of term, isn't it?

Michael loves a bit of innuendo.

PasturesNew

vivatifosi wrote: »

How on earth do you even triage over 100 injured people?

They'll know the answer and will have practised.... but, if I suddenly came upon such a scene and had to take control, then I'd have to do it into simple piles:

Gone, can't do anything for those.
Moaning/limping, shove off, we've got real people to deal with here.

Then it's the rest... not able to move themselves and making noises/movement - the general rule is that those making the most noise are the least injured - so you sort them out in order of noise levels... quietest first.

michaels

Doozergirl wrote: »

Michael loves a bit of innuendo.

I've heard you were partial to a bit of innuendo yourself in your younger days what with the booty calls 'n all....