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  • Pyxis
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    If you want to get even more embroiled in the niceties, I found this!:D


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  • zagubov
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    I once got confused when I hear somebody talking about their half-cousin Had to think about it for quite a long time. :think:
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  • silvercar
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    Pyxis wrote: »
    If you want to get even more embroiled in the niceties, I found this!:D


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    So you can have two first cousins twice removed who themselves are 4 generations apart!

    I understand you can have half siblings and therefore half cousins, does that mean your say father's half brother is your half uncle?
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  • PasturesNew
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    edited 19 June 2017 at 10:48AM
    Hot, hot, hot, hot.

    I've got more windows open than usual .... curtains closed .... wearing a loose dress ....got a cold drink .... and it's hot hot hot! Still only 10.45!

    Digital thermometer says it's 28C in here, 82F.
  • Pyxis
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    zagubov wrote: »
    I once got confused when I hear somebody talking about their half-cousin Had to think about it for quite a long time. :think:

    Everything gets compounded by broken second marriages/new babies who are half-siblings, etc!

    I once knew someone who was the youngest daughter of a family with six daughters. Both her parents had been married before and three of the others were her father's children, and the other two were her mother's. So she had five half-sisters, but three girls were step-sisters to the other two and so not blood-related at all! Three of them had a father and a step-mother, two had a mother and a step-father, and she herself had a mother and a father!

    It took me a while to work it all out!


    Interestingly, in Italian, unless it has changed very, very recently, there is no separate word to distinguish between a half-sister/brother and a step-sister/brother, which came as a great surprise to me, given that the two are not related by blood at all.

    In addition the word for grandson/daughter is the same word as that for niece/nephew, which I also felt could cause confusion!
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  • ukmaggie45
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    Pyxis wrote: »
    Everything gets compounded by broken second marriages/new babies who are half-siblings, etc!

    Yes! My paternal Grandfather had a daughter older than his third wife (my Grandmother). His first 2 wives both died, the first when her daughter was only a little over a year old. Maud, the daughter, absolutely hated my Grandmother. Indeed on her death bed my Grandmother commented "It wasn't true what Maud said about me"! We never found out what it was she said, but I imagine it was something along the lines of "Little gold digger, after his money".

    My Grandfather had a load of brothers, so they had my Dad's cousins, most of which age-wise were a generation above my Dad. I've had such a job trying to sort them out, especially seeing (as Pastures has commented before) they doled out the same names generation after generation!

    It's become impossible for me to pursue it all further on Ancestry though as they've completely f***ed up the timeline, and doubled up on a load of people too, so none of it makes sense any more. Grrr! Haven't renewed my subscription. But they've had hundreds of pounds over about 8 years so I resent that all my hard work has been messed up.
  • Pyxis
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    So, for the benefit of all future generations, it should be law that no-one in the same family can have the same name, no-one be allowed to change their name, even by marriage, and no-one is allowed to remarry and have more children!

    That would make it all a lot simpler to do family trees! :D







    And cause a riot!

    Talking of changing names, I've never understood why there isn't a central register of deed poll etc. name changes.

    Or for that matter, why there isn't a central register for wills either. That would prevent later wills getting 'lost' if someone didn't like what they said! :D
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  • PasturesNew
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    I get annoyed when people "disappear". After a marriage breakup many simply go elsewhere ... and then, in looking for a death, you can be looking for "anybody with that name, between 19XX and 40-50 years later, in any part of the country - and/or maybe they went abroad". :) I've one who disappeared and I knew he went abroad and came back ...but did he go again? So I've a death of somebody with a VERY common name, who might've "died any time after 1945 (me guessing that) and before 1986, but probably in the 50s/60s" - I've about 50 on the list and am cross-referencing them to see if there are any clues that it IS, or IS NOT the one I'm after.

    I've started with a list of "everybody in England/Wales who died with that name, on FreeBMD, since 1945" - I've picked 1945 randomly as the end of the war so most likely to be the returning date.

    This gives me a starting list of nearly 500. Then I can dismiss all those too young/too old ... and then I can cross compare with probate records to try to get a clue from there as to who it was that died... which might mean cross-researching that person to see if there's a hint of a match - which means doing a mini tree for everybody ...

    Newspapers also give a few clues because if one's death matches for age and there's an obit that says "xyz died, was born in this village and never went over the mountain" then I know that's to be crossed off the list.

    It's a smaller list now than 500 ... but it's not a quick job. Also, there's a backdrop of "he might not have even died in England/Wales" ... and a feeling I'll never find out
  • PasturesNew
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    Still hot, hot, hot. Even though the sun's moved round/away since about noon the temperature's not dropped at all. I got a plastic bucket of cold water and a thin old tea towel and have spent the entire afternoon with a wet tea towel draped over my head and/or my shoulders.....

    I've not been out in the sun at all, I never do ... but each time I put the tea towel on my arms etc I get that feeling you get when you've got bad sunburn!
  • Tahlullah
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    26 degrees here. Been in the sea that Maggie has posted a beautiful picture of. Fabulous weather. Major suntan.

    Back to work tomorrow.
    Still striving to be mortgage free before I get to a point I can't enjoy it.

    Owed at the end of -
    02/19 - £78,400. 04/19 - £85,000. 05/19 - £83,300. 06/19 - £78,900.
    07/19 - £77,500. 08/19 - £76,000.
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