Nice People Thread No. 15, a Cyber Summer

Pyxis

PasturesNew wrote: »

I can't see the hardship in that to be honest. It's not a lot different to how a lot of full-time working people are living.

And, when you're doing something for X months, you know one day it'll stop if you're not enjoying it .... so you'd either love it, love the cash, love the freedom after home, or, just think "it's only 6 months" so it doesn't matter much ... and those with more wealth would get crafty top ups by some method.

Ok then, bring back National Service, but make it Community Service instead of guns and stuff. Still living in barracks, though, with a beastly Sergeant-Major type!

To be honest, that wouldn't really hurt, would it?

PasturesNew

Pyxis wrote: »

Ok then, bring back National Service, but make it Community Service instead of guns and stuff. Still living in barracks, though, with a beastly Sergeant-Major type!

To be honest, that wouldn't really hurt, would it?

Yep - and single glazing and one central small wood burner in the middle of the hut.



They could combine community service with "learning how to live right" including simple DIY, simple cooking and simple "leaving like a human and not an animal".

silvercar

Pyxis wrote: »

Do you know, instead of doing National Service, it might be better if every 18 year-old had to live on NMW in a shared flat somewhere, for 6momths.
For some people it might be a step up, (!), but for a lot of others it would be an eye-opener.

(No freebies from parents allowed, during the six months!)

Think that is called being a student!

michaels

Found out today that we are an IDACI household so we know what it is like to be poor.

LydiaJ

Pyxis wrote: »

Like Lydia, my first thought was that a SORN was only needed for the road tax, but I've just checked and yes, it does apply to insurance as well. It even specifically says even if the car will only be uninsured for a short time, such as between insurances.

The NPT - the place where you never know what you're going to learn next. Thank you to those NP who've brought me and others up to date on the matter.

Pyxis wrote: »

I can remember when I was off school because I was ill. Even after just a couple of days, trying to catch up was difficult, and there was always the sense that you missed out.

Indeed. While I'm grateful to those NP who've pointed out that kids being absent from school is a pain for the teacher and for the class, the person who suffers most is the child. Either they manage somehow to fit in a great deal of extra work to catch up, or they carry on regardless, leaving a little chunk missing in their knowledge and understanding of each of their subjects.

michaels wrote: »

Found out today that we are an IDACI household so we know what it is like to be poor.

Interesting. How did you find that out?

PasturesNew

michaels wrote: »

.... IDACI ....

That's probably like saying Prince Charles spent half his childhood in care - as he was at boarding school.

SingleSue

LydiaJ wrote: »

The NPT - the place where you never know what you're going to learn next. Thank you to those NP who've brought me and others up to date on the matter.



Indeed. While I'm grateful to those NP who've pointed out that kids being absent from school is a pain for the teacher and for the class, the person who suffers most is the child. Either they manage somehow to fit in a great deal of extra work to catch up, or they carry on regardless, leaving a little chunk missing in their knowledge and understanding of each of their subjects.



Interesting. How did you find that out?

Joe has managed to suss it out brilliantly.

He was on half days that started at just a couple of sessions a week and gradually built up to 5 half days by the age of 10, did the odd full day which was then too built up gradually until he finally went full time when he was 11 (so half way through year 6) and even with that, he couldn't attend all the time due to hospital stays etc. Since the age of 11, his attendance has always been in the low 70's.

He hates missing chunks of information, or not understanding things and was so scared of falling behind whilst at college, so he took it upon himself to research and teach himself. He's now in advance of his peers workwise, has a wider knowledge than that being taught but is also extremely bored in lessons because he has already done it.

Re holidays, our annual holiday as children was always taken at the end of June/beginning of July, returning for the last week of school. In Joe's statement he actually had it written in that he was not to attend school in the last week of term (last 2 weeks in summer) due to all the changes/upheaval in the classroom before school holidays. I think everyone got sick of making progress only for him to get so freaked out by all the changes and lost trust in the staff, that it was all lost.

We eventually (sort of) got over that hump but it took many many years, lots of stress outs and lots of tears (usually mine because I felt so cruel forcing him to go through it)

Re microwave - Ours is ancient, got it from a friend before Joe was even born for £5 or £10 and she had had it several years as a second hand purchase.

michaels

LydiaJ wrote: »

The NPT - the place where you never know what you're going to learn next. Thank you to those NP who've brought me and others up to date on the matter.



Indeed. While I'm grateful to those NP who've pointed out that kids being absent from school is a pain for the teacher and for the class, the person who suffers most is the child. Either they manage somehow to fit in a great deal of extra work to catch up, or they carry on regardless, leaving a little chunk missing in their knowledge and understanding of each of their subjects.



Interesting. How did you find that out?

Started here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-39479028

We have 2 adult and 3 kids so divide post tax weekly income by 1.6 etc.

dqwd

bugslet

FWIW, I'm in agreement with not having term time holidays either, for all the reasons PN outlined. All this they get so much out of the culture, its a learning experience, so is being at school.

I don't cook at all, my entire diet is based on how do I eat as healthy as possible without cooking, so I do eat a lot of fruit and veg. Then ruin it with chocolate.....

SingleSue

michaels wrote: »

Started here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-39479028

We have 2 adult and 3 kids so divide post tax weekly income by 1.6 etc.

dqwd

It has taken a fair bit of effort to maintain this status over the last 3 years but I am quite proud of qualifying for pupil premium ever 6 by only forgoing 3 days of wtc.

I'd rather have not qualified for it, the boys hated being classed as a free school mealer, as being marked out as 'poor' and somehow inferior to their classmates because of it.