Help! The Flying Wheelie Bin

rs65

CNewburn wrote: »

and it wouldnt have damaged my car if they only brought the bin back inside their house.

I think you will have difficulty proving anyone is negligent here.


Two of my bins blew from their normal place to the front driveway. I retrieved the bottle one which ended upside down but the plastic one and its contents have never been seen again (the lid was on the driveway). Even if the bin that hit your car had been moved somewhere, there was no guarantee it wouldn't have been blown around.


I did think bout securing mine by putting bricks on top but reckoned a bin with bricks on top could cause more damage.


Is it possible to secure your bins to ensure no damage could be caused?

CNewburn wrote: »

and it wouldnt have damaged my car if they only brought the bin back inside their house.

Who would bring their bin inside their house?

CNewburn

Hi rs65, its looking that way �� this house has a very long driveway safe enough to put the bin out of the way, I would have understand if the bin flew from inside the house out from its fence but it was just left laying around when the person inside the house have brought it back as soon as it was emptied (it is the sensible thing to do specially they live on a street that parents from the school park to pick up their children) if they were not home I could just easily say it was an unfortunate thing that happens but someone's inside the house. I think the thing I am more upset is that the homeowner didn't even apologize for it than the part where they are not paying for it

System

It sounds like the OP expects home owners to sit in such a position that they can permanently monitor their bins and go rushing out as soon as they have been emptied. Don't know about other areas but my binmen will turn up anywhere between 7AM and 11AM and the place that I have to put the bins is not even visible from any door or window of my house

Meanwhile....in the real world

System

CNewburn wrote: »

Hi rs65, its looking that way �� this house has a very long driveway safe enough to put the bin out of the way,

Do you expect them to monitor the road and act as soon as the bin men have been?

CNewburn wrote: »

I think the thing I am more upset is that the homeowner didn't even apologize for it than the part where they are not paying for it

They had nothing to apologise for

MoneyMission2015

You say the owner is responsible for putting back in safe place as soon as possible - there could be any number of reasons why the wife had not done it. She could have been in the shower, getting kids ready for school etc, which means it wasn't possible to bring it in. I doubt there are many people on here who can say they take their wheelie bin in within minutes of the bin being emptied.

As for the council workers, I have been told by many people that they are actually not allowed to step on to your property (driveways, gardens etc) so this would make it difficult for them to secure it properly. Where I live the only properties they can set foot on are ones that have been issued with an orange sticker, which is a notice that the homeowner is unable to manage the bins by themselves (elderly or disabled), so in this case the council worker is able to go on to the property to retrieve the bin & then put the bin back. However, I don't know if this is different for other councils.

Long story short, you will have to either pay for the repair yourself or claim on your own insurance.

CNewburn

@!!!!!! I don't expect people to wait whole day for their bin man, ours comes on the same time at least within the hour of normal service. My point is and there is no need to you to reply in such a nasty way is that it is just common sense that if the weather is like what it was last week I would like a sensible person would AT LEAST make sure I bring my bin in as soon as the bin man emptied it. This homeowner is one of these people that always looks out from their window coz people keep on letting their dog !!!! on their driveway and yes I know this coz I see her posting on fb ALL the time moaning about something outside her house.

So, I know that I am losing a battle here but I guess an apology about it would be nice for all the reason that I have given. If I was in her shoes I would have apologized and maybe asked to pay for it . It is just a decent way to do.

CNewburn

MoneyMission2015 wrote: »

You say the owner is responsible for putting back in safe place as soon as possible - there could be any number of reasons why the wife had not done it. She could have been in the shower, getting kids ready for school etc, which means it wasn't possible to bring it in. I doubt there are many people on here who can say they take their wheelie bin in within minutes of the bin being emptied.

Hi thanks for that comment, I know what you mean and I do understand this is case to case. Like I said on one of my reply I know they wouldn't miss the bin men with the sort of house they have, its a small bungalow house is similar to my inlaws and even when we are the back of the house we can still hear that the bin man is collecting the rubbish. And they are one of these people that always moans about everything happening outside their house and dog dirt patrol. But this is not the point. Like I said it would be nice for them to at least have the decency to apologize, they can keep the money and let karma just takes its course.

elsien

The home owner may not be apologising because an apology is generally seen as an admission that they've done something wrong. In their place, because of the communications from you saying you want reparation from someone, I wouldn't be doing anything that might be taken as an acceptance of liability either.
(And for what it's worth, my bin is sometimes out until the next day.)

megaginge

Fundamentally, this is no one's fault. Everyone here has told you that without exception. Claim on your insurance, or repair it out of your own pocket, and move on.

It's unfortunate but that's the way it is. You will get nowhere pursuing this.

cajef

Whatever you want or expect from either the householder of the council you are not going to get, as others have advised this is why you have insurance, forget it and get on with life instead of repeatedly going over it and posting the same thing on here.