Fined for littering

Mart34

Hi guys

My wife was fined today for dropping a cigarette butt in an arrear that has no public waste bins nor CCTV, is this fine still enforceable? Apparently the council warden witnessed her dropping the litter whilst approaching her in his car.

Personally I would of thought this fine would be fully challengable due to points raised above. Can someone advise.

naedanger

Mart34 wrote: »

Hi guys

My wife was fined today for dropping a cigarette butt in an arrear that has no public waste bins nor CCTV, is this fine still enforceable? Apparently the council warden witnessed her dropping the litter whilst approaching her in his car.

Personally I would of thought this fine would be fully challengable due to points raised above. Can someone advise.

Neither of the points mentioned would be a defence.

agrinnall

Does she accept that she committed the offence? Then I don't see why she shouldn't pay for both her filthy habit and her filthy habits.

boo_star

Mart34 wrote: »

Hi guys

My wife was fined today for dropping a cigarette butt in an arrear that has no public waste bins nor CCTV, is this fine still enforceable? Apparently the council warden witnessed her dropping the litter whilst approaching her in his car.

Personally I would of thought this fine would be fully challengable due to points raised above. Can someone advise.

Littering is littering, regardless of the lack of nearby bins. As I smoker I tend to roll out the lit part (probably considered littering) and put the remainder in my pocket. Not ideal, of course, but at least I'm trying.

As to CCTV? You're having a laugh, right? Since when was it ever a requirement for an offence to be recorded for a fine, or even a conviction to be given?

If there is such a law, there's an awfully large number of people who have been wrongfully convicted.

wealdroam

OP, here's a great moneysaving idea - buy your wife one of these.

Valentines Day soon.

sjbrun

Mart34 wrote: »

Hi guys

My wife was fined today for dropping a cigarette butt in an arrear that has no public waste bins nor CCTV, is this fine still enforceable? Apparently the council warden witnessed her dropping the litter whilst approaching her in his car.

Personally I would of thought this fine would be fully challengable due to points raised above. Can someone advise.

I'm shocked that you think it is okay to litter under any circumstances. Fair enough stomp on it to stop it alight and then pick it up and take it to a bin or put it in your pocket. I know a smoker who has a small money bag in her pocket for cigerettes until she can find a bin

marliepanda

What a joke of a post. No wonder the floors are filthy with fag ends if this is the viewpoint.why are fag ends acceptable? Can I dump a Coke can? A takeaway box? Leave my dog poo on the floor as there's no nearby dog waste bin?

System

sjbrun wrote: »

I'm shocked that you think it is okay to litter under any circumstances. Fair enough stomp on it to stop it alight and then pick it up and take it to a bin or put it in your pocket. I know a smoker who has a small money bag in her pocket for cigerettes until she can find a bin

I've been challenged before for doing the above, i stubbed it out and put it in the bin, the enforcement officer told as it had been on the floor, i had littered, i had a slight breakdown and ended up walking away with no charges but he didnt seem bothered that i intended to put it on the bin.

naedanger

xXMessedUpXx wrote: »

I've been challenged before for doing the above, i stubbed it out and put it in the bin, the enforcement officer told as it had been on the floor, i had littered, i had a slight breakdown and ended up walking away with no charges but he didnt seem bothered that i intended to put it on the bin.

A person is guilty of an offence if he throws down, drops or otherwise deposits any litter in any place to which this section applies and leaves it. [My emphasis.]

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2005/16/part/3/crossheading/offence-of-dropping-litter

marliepanda

naedanger wrote: »

A person is guilty of an offence if he throws down, drops or otherwise deposits any litter in any place to which this section applies and leaves it. [My emphasis.]

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2005/16/part/3/crossheading/offence-of-dropping-litter

It could easily be argued stubbing out a cigarette leaves litter behind

Poppie68

I'm not going to judge your wife for smoking as I used to smoke myself, I didn't smoke in the street though. Your wife is an adult and as an adult she should know better than to drop any litter on the floor.... Does she do the same at home?