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Using an umbrella company to avoid child support

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  • Andypandyboy
    Andypandyboy Posts: 2,472 Forumite
    FGS. Some of the responses on here beggar belief. If this chap is earning 10k a month it is morally abhorrent that he goes to these lengths to hide his true income.

    Whether the OP is a NMW earner or a millionaire is not remotely relevant to that. He has a responsibility that he is not meeting.

    I have no idea how the OP can proceed but in her shoes I too would be trying my best to make him own his responsibilities.

    Good luck OP.
  • DUTR
    DUTR Posts: 12,958 Forumite
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    FGS. Some of the responses on here beggar belief. If this chap is earning 10k a month it is morally abhorrent that he goes to these lengths to hide his true income.

    Whether the OP is a NMW earner or a millionaire is not remotely relevant to that. He has a responsibility that he is not meeting.

    I have no idea how the OP can proceed but in her shoes I too would be trying my best to make him own his responsibilities.

    Good luck OP.

    Read the original post again..... his company turnsover £10k a month.
    He is meeting his responsibilty though, read the original post.
  • Andypandyboy
    Andypandyboy Posts: 2,472 Forumite
    DUTR wrote: »
    Read the original post again..... his company turnsover £10k a month.
    He is meeting his responsibilty though, read the original post.

    No, it seems to me that he is using the far laxer "employment" rules in China to circumvent the system.

    As I understand it he is an airline pilot. He works for one airline, he is not freelance contracting his services to many. He works onboard the plane of a large airline. He does not have the overheads of the company to account for.

    He gets paid for that work in a dubious manner imo, for the purposes of hiding his actual income from either the tax or his ex or very probably both.

    He may be doing all the above legally, I have no idea, but it is morally wrong and he is not meeting his moral financial obligations based on his true, unhidden, income.
  • DUTR
    DUTR Posts: 12,958 Forumite
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    No, it seems to me that he is using the far laxer "employment" rules in China to circumvent the system.

    As I understand it he is an airline pilot. He works for one airline, he is not freelance contracting his services to many. He works onboard the plane of a large airline. He does not have the overheads of the company to account for.

    He gets paid for that work in a dubious manner imo, for the purposes of hiding his actual income from either the tax or his ex or very probably both.

    He may be doing all the above legally, I have no idea, but it is morally wrong and he is not meeting his moral financial obligations based on his true, unhidden, income.

    Like many others I too had the boyhood dream of being an airline pilot, I remember a documentary about the career, it's not all the headlines folk think, there are lots of freelance that work for one airline. And the money is not great considering all the aspects , much of which is made up from allowances.
    That is why I cannot simply buy into the he is earning £x a month and has deep pockets or excess disposable income. Just a higher paid taxi driver really.
  • Poppie68
    Poppie68 Posts: 4,881 Forumite
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    Airline pilots are on very good money especially if they are a Captain.... He could very well be on £100,000+ a year....He has obviously set up as a company to evade his obligations which makes him a weasel.... The op and the children deserve his help, I'm sure he didn't make her pregnant with a gun to his head so he should now be help responsible only a complete scum bag would deprive their children while they live a life of relative luxury.
  • Andypandyboy
    Andypandyboy Posts: 2,472 Forumite
    edited 4 February 2016 at 6:52PM
    DUTR wrote: »
    Like many others I too had the boyhood dream of being an airline pilot, I remember a documentary about the career, it's not all the headlines folk think, there are lots of freelance that work for one airline. And the money is not great considering all the aspects , much of which is made up from allowances.
    That is why I cannot simply buy into the he is earning £x a month and has deep pockets or excess disposable income. Just a higher paid taxi driver really.

    With respect, you are wrong. He is an airline Captain, not a junior rank. He could easily be earning in the region of £100k/£150k pa.

    http://www.flightdeckfriend.com/#!how-much-does-an-airline-pilot-get-paid/cb9k
  • POPPYOSCAR
    POPPYOSCAR Posts: 14,902 Forumite
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    Join forces with his ex.


    Presumably she wants more money as well?
  • DUTR
    DUTR Posts: 12,958 Forumite
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    With respect, you are wrong. He is an airline Captain, not a junior rank. He could easily be earning in the region of £100k/£150k pa.

    http://www.flightdeckfriend.com/#!how-much-does-an-airline-pilot-get-paid/cb9k

    Why not become a pilot then if it's so lucrative? I posted a link earlier in the thread, some have to pay for their own training etc, and that was echoed in the documentary I saw, some reasons why it's not cool to be a pilot.
  • DUTR
    DUTR Posts: 12,958 Forumite
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    Disadvantages
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    • Through working as a contractor you are your own boss, which means that you need to take control of your finances and tax payments. If you choose to contract as a director of your own limited company there will be a small amount of paperwork to complete each month.
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  • POPPYOSCAR
    POPPYOSCAR Posts: 14,902 Forumite
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    OP


    How do you know he has money in "bank accounts all over the world"?
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