Budgeting for a boiler replacement

csgohan4

Guess I should stop my Boiler care subs and use it for when my boiler kicks the bucket eventually

CashStrapped

It would not be covered, so paying for something like Homecare to cover the boiler would be a waste of money.

They should be telling you every year when they do a safety check that if it fails we cannot guarantee to find parts. Which means, they wont even try.

csgohan4

CashStrapped wrote: »

It would not be covered, so paying for something like Homecare to cover the boiler would be a waste of money.

They should be telling you every year when they do a safety check that if it fails we cannot guarantee to find parts. Which means, they wont even try.

Generally if it's more than 7 years the boiler is not covered, and it breaks before then, they would probably give you a budget brand so you have you pay a packet for when it breaks outside of warranty.


however getting a gas annual service isnt cheap either, about 100 a year.

unclebulgaria

Although cashstrapped has been good enough to take the time to try to explain the best options for you there are some glaring omissions and incorrect information.
Find a decent local installer and ask them to go through everything with you. A full update of your system depending on the installers labour cost + materials (depending on manufacturer) may not leave you with too much change. One of the options mentioned will require an unvented cylinder. A full kit sized to your house isn't cheap materials or labour.

CashStrapped

unclebulgaria wrote: »

Although cashstrapped has been good enough to take the time to try to explain the best options for you there are some glaring omissions and incorrect information.
Find a decent local installer and ask them to go through everything with you. A full update of your system depending on the installers labour cost + materials (depending on manufacturer) may not leave you with too much change. One of the options mentioned will require an unvented cylinder. A full kit sized to your house isn't cheap materials or labour.

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Erm .......that is exactly what I said.

1. I told him to get a local engineer to go through all the options as it was not my place to tell him which was best for him. I gave my own opinion however.

2. I did not tell him to choose an particular option.....just pointed out what the general options were and the basic pros and cons of each.

3. If you look at his initial budget of 5.5k. That is well within the scope of a system boiler and unvented cylinder.At least in my area anyway for a 3/4bed house. Regardless I did not give him prossible cost breakdowns, detailed specifics or labor costs nor was it my intention to.

So...I do not see your problem.

unclebulgaria

You did give your opinion. You said it was a myth that combi's are more efficient than system or open vented systems. You also said that the latter aren't as complicated as combi's when they are! You have a number of peripheral controls that need to be taken into account with the other systems.
It is about outlets not about people!
I said you missed information and you did.

CashStrapped

That is fine, but you could have just said in your initial post.

"CashStrapped I disagree with you on x y and z"

Rather than discrediting me, and being slightly condescending (that is how it reads) but not posting what you thought my omissions were. Anyway...putting that to one side...

1. Regarding the efficiency of combis. I read a detailed study that measured that in many circumstances combis were not as efficient as a system boiler. I posted it a long time ago but give me a sec and I'll dig it out as it was an interesting read. Yes,you may (probably are) correct vs open vented. I don't think the study covered that.

To be honest I was trying to get across the point that combis are often seen as the all singing all dancing most efficient solution for the majority of propeties. This is not always the case. Combis are the thing most of the public will think of as being the best/only solution when getting a new boiler, as it is the most marketed. I bet many are unaware there are alternatives!

2. I was talking about the boiler itself. But, again I take your point.

3. Again, I stand corrected. But people use outlets

I appreciate the corrections/debate

edit: This may have been it. Cannot quite remember, but it is a good attempt to discuss and quantify the efficiency and merits of the different set-ups with a good amount of research.

http://energy-surprises.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/combi-boiler-versus-hot-water-tank.html

csgohan4

unclebulgaria wrote: »

You did give your opinion. You said it was a myth that combi's are more efficient than system or open vented systems. You also said that the latter aren't as complicated as combi's when they are! You have a number of peripheral controls that need to be taken into account with the other systems.
It is about outlets not about people!
I said you missed information and you did.

Rather than be a keyboard warrior, why don't you give a detailed overview of boiler systems which is easy to understand, rather than trying and be a mug.

Cashtrapped took time to explain this to the OP. While it is his opinion I do appreciate it may not apply to all

lifeandsoul

Thanks everyone for your help. I do appreciate its impossible for anyone to give the definitive answer without spending the time at my property and that all the advice here is everyone's best guess.

I do feel a lot clearer about the options and I will be able to make a better judgement based on what I have read here as I am aware of all the pros and cons.

Short term, my wife wanted to book a holiday this weekend. I'm feeling pretty happy that she should go ahead without it compromising the amount I have set aside for the boiler.

Thanks again to everyone who has helped out.

macman

csgohan4 wrote: »

Generally if it's more than 7 years the boiler is not covered, and it breaks before then, they would probably give you a budget brand so you have you pay a packet for when it breaks outside of warranty.


however getting a gas safety check isn't cheap either, about 100 a year.

Unless you are renting, there is no requirement for an annual gas safety check. An annual boiler service is advised, which is not the same thing.