UK Labour Market Stats

cells

The UK does have a problem with low pay and low hours but its perhaps down to the individual rather than the state of the economy.

I know one lady who works 2 hours a day in a primary school canteen who would (or at least she says so) like a higher paying job but doesn't try to find one. Of course no one is going to knock on her door and say here you go

Thrugelmir

cells wrote: »

The UK does have a problem with low pay and low hours but its perhaps down to the individual rather than the state of the economy.

Many industries have died out totally. Skills are not only learnt but passed down from older generations. Building a skills base from a low starting point is long slow process.

Generali

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Many industries have died out totally. Skills are not only learnt but passed down from older generations. Building a skills base from a low starting point is long slow process.

I doubt that the UK will need smiths, thatchers, fullers and coopers in large numbers ever again. That other countries do is more their problem than the UK's.

Mistermeaner

Yes. There is a chronic shortage of whittlers and blacksmiths nowadays

Edit; Gen beat me to it

Tromking

cells wrote: »

The UK does have a problem with low pay and low hours.......[\QUOTE]

You think!!
Not so much the jobs factory of Europe as the sh*te jobs factory!
Thank god we'll have a party espousing a policy of a high wage, high tech economy come the next GE.

CLAPTON

Tromking wrote: »

cells wrote: »

The UK does have a problem with low pay and low hours.......[\QUOTE]

You think!!
Not so much the jobs factory of Europe as the sh*te jobs factory!
Thank god we'll have a party espousing a policy of a high wage, high tech economy come the next GE.

is that the 'white heat of technology' ?
backs to the 70s?

although they will be in good company because every country in the world (except a few of the loony left) espouse high pay and high tech : apparently it's harder done than said

antrobus

CLAPTON wrote: »

...is that the 'white heat of technology' ?....

Don't knock it. Blair didn't do all that badly recycling the 'New Britain' slogan.

CLAPTON wrote: »

..backs to the 70s?

The 'white heat of the scientific revolution' would be the 1960s.

CLAPTON wrote: »

..although they will be in good company because every country in the world (except a few of the loony left) espouse high pay and high tech : apparently it's harder done than said

Yes, but only in this (can we use this one again?) New Britain will the scientific revolution be organised by a visionary socialist government led by the nation's leading intellectuals. (Can we get away with that? Corbyn did pass some A levels didn't he?)

antrobus

cells wrote: »

The UK does have a problem with low pay ..

Don't know about that. The ILO has numbers that show the UK at No5 in the world for the highest average wage.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17543356

cells wrote: »

..and low hours ...

Working low hours is a problem? Since when?

The typical Greek employee works 42 hours a week. The typical Danish employee works 34 hours a week. Guess which country is bust?

antrobus

Generali wrote: »

...Yup, a first step on the employment ladder, a way to make ends meet while at uni or maybe a couple of months work to pay for a big holiday or Christmas.

The dissatisfaction with zero hours contracts seems to be mostly among those that talk about them rather than work under them.

It even might be the case that the existence of ZHC helps explain why the UK has appeared to be something of a jobs factory in recent years; it's a way of making people employable.

Some employers like ZHC because they can hire cheap labour with minimal risk - (If they turn out to be useless, no need to bother even giving them notice; just give them zero hours next week )
- so they will take a punt on just about anyone. The ones that consistently manage to turn up on time, get a bit of experience, and then find themselves a proper job within a year or so.

It's a hypothesis at least.

ukcarper

antrobus wrote: »

I'll give it a go.:)



59% of those on ZHC don't want any more hours to be exact.

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So a sizeable minority would like more hours.