UK Labour Market Stats

Generali

mwpt wrote: »

I spent a year in London in the late 90s before moving on to Germany for work. In those days London was an extremely popular place for young people from all over to come and work for a few years. Spanish, Italians, French, South Africans, Zimbabweans, New Zealanders, Australians, Germans, Dutch, Portuguese, Canadian, US, etc. The bars around Earls Court and other London areas were basically international hangouts. Many did part time work such as catering, packing, whatever, for which they'd get phoned on the day, while topping up their funds for the next trip. I can't remember anyone thinking they were getting a bad deal.

The majority of people on zero hours contracts are quite happy with the number of hours they do and, according to surveys, happy with the flexibility they have.

As established, a huge proportion of people on zero hours contracts are young or from overseas and I would imagine that a good number of them are students that want/need the flexibility of being able to work as suits them.

padington

CLAPTON wrote: »

you don't actually pay any tax : you simply rebate a little of the money, I give you

That is quite an astute observation. Maybe a public sector worker shouldn't pay any tax to outline the clarity of the situation and should just get paid less.

Maybe it could help encourage more wealth creators ?

CLAPTON

padington wrote: »

That is quite an astute observation. Maybe a public sector worker shouldn't pay any tax to outline the clarity of the situation and should just get paid less.

Maybe it could help encourage more wealth creators ?

No, public v private isn't the only distinctive feature of jobs and
there would be many drawbacks and no advantages

padington

CLAPTON wrote: »

No, public v private isn't the only distinctive feature of jobs and
there would be many drawbacks and no advantages

Trust you to disagree the only time I agree with you.

Your poor wife, honestly.

Tromking

padington wrote: »

That is quite an astute observation. Maybe a public sector worker shouldn't pay any tax to outline the clarity of the situation and should just get paid less.

Maybe it could help encourage more wealth creators ?

I think there are enough lazy and inefficient private sector workers not any paying tax already.

CLAPTON

padington wrote: »

Trust you to disagree the only time I agree with you.

Your poor wife, honestly.

indeed so
that's because I hold balanced views on these matters, believe in a mixed economy and don't believe in simplistic solutions.
There are some public sector jobs that perform as private sector jobs, there are private sector jobs that perform as public.
In this case I see no benefits to anyone of un-necessary differentiation of the treatment of public v private sector job T&C and taxation models

Mistermeaner

I think the comment was tongue in cheek

Generali

Anyone fancy getting back to the topic or is this just going to descend into petty bickering?

Ah yeah, I remember. This is the interwebs. Petty bickering it is, perhaps with some ill-informed comment thrown in for good measure

antrobus

Generali wrote: »

Anyone fancy getting back to the topic or is this just going to descend into petty bickering?...

I'll give it a go.:)

Generali wrote: »

The majority of people on zero hours contracts are quite happy with the number of hours they do and, according to surveys, happy with the flexibility they have.....

59% of those on ZHC don't want any more hours to be exact.

Generali wrote: »

...As established, a huge proportion of people on zero hours contracts are young or from overseas and I would imagine that a good number of them are students that want/need the flexibility of being able to work as suits them.

If you look at ONS numbers you can see that there is some considerable turnover in those on ZHCs. As in, 40% of them have been with their employer for less than one year.

The impression would be that a ZHC is just a short-term fix for a lot of people. For example; a way of getting your first foot on the employment ladder.

Generali

antrobus wrote: »

I'll give it a go.:)

Cheers!:j

antrobus wrote: »

The impression would be that a ZHC is just a short-term fix for a lot of people. For example; a way of getting your first foot on the employment ladder.

Yup, a first step on the employment ladder, a way to make ends meet while at uni or maybe a couple of months work to pay for a big holiday or Christmas.

The dissatisfaction with zero hours contracts seems to be mostly among those that talk about them rather than work under them.