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Help needed! Popla rejected appeal, and Premier Park are now demanding £100
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I would suggest that you get in touch with the church ( as I would assume it is the Church who have taken on the PPC )
Say what you have stated in your original post, and ask the church to call of its agents, for who's actions the church is jointly liable for.
What you are after is at least two of the following
Best option: for the Church to get in touch with the PPC and then tell them to cancel the charge, the church ( or landowner) as principal can tell the PPC to drop it.
Second best option, ad useful in conjunction with the best option: to have a letter from the church confirming that they would not/do not want this matter to end up in court and the Church as Principal would not/does not support court action by its agents ( premier parking ) in respect to this incident
Dear Church.......
further more, as I suffer from anxiety problems and to put my mind at rest could you please confirm that you would not wish this mater to proceed to court, should your agents Premier parking proceed in that direction, as the risk of potential Court proceedings is causing me further health issuesFrom the Plain Language Commission:
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+1 to Half_ways suggestion of contacting the church.
I had a POPLA case on file for this location. Looking through it, I would struggle on the signage shown to agree any contravention happened. Perhaps they have changed their POPLA packs, or updated the signage. If you want me to give my opinion, please email either the POPLA evidence pack or photos of the signage to prankster@parking-prankster.com.
Incidentally I love this from the parking company
The Appellant has provided an explanation as to why she entered the site and we are completely sympathetic to this
Obviously completely sympathetic means gouging the motorist for £100.Hi, we’ve approved your signature. It's awesome. Please email the forum team if you want more praise - MSE ForumTeam0 -
please make sure you do the above ......
Parkies blog can be found here if you wish to look through
http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/
keep going ....
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Parking-Prankster wrote: »+1 to Half_ways suggestion of contacting the church.
I had a POPLA case on file for this location. Looking through it, I would struggle on the signage shown to agree any contravention happened. Perhaps they have changed their POPLA packs, or updated the signage. If you want me to give my opinion, please email either the POPLA evidence pack or photos of the signage to prankster@parking-prankster.com.
Incidentally I love this from the parking company
The Appellant has provided an explanation as to why she entered the site and we are completely sympathetic to this
Obviously completely sympathetic means gouging the motorist for £100.
thanks, I would appreciate it if you could take a look. I've emailed you my pack....:T0 -
I've taken a look.
This is a very surprising POPLA decision. Although the operator claims the terms and conditions have been broken and the motorist therefore owes £100, they have provided no evidence of this.
The operator has provided a number of pictures of signage, but none are readable. In my opinion the appeal should therefore have been upheld as it is the operator's job to prove their case.
Just to be charitable, I blew up some of the pictures to maximum magnification and attempted to read them. As far as I could make out, there are a number of contraventions which might give rise to a charge of £100, and these are parking with an unregistered permit, parking outside a bay, and something about motorcycles I couldn't read.
As this isn't what they were charging for, I can't see the charge is justified by the signage. There are many court cases supporting this, such as Excel v Hetherington-Jakeman, PE v Lemon and Harris, and PE v Collins-Daniel.
What you would owe according to the signage, if it was a case of parking, which I don't think it is, is £1.
I guess the new POPLA need a bit of bedding in.Hi, we’ve approved your signature. It's awesome. Please email the forum team if you want more praise - MSE ForumTeam0 -
Parking-Prankster wrote: »....I guess the new POPLA need a bit of bedding in.
Maybe the new POPLA is nothing like the "old" POPLA, and has now turned the "old" POPLA into something completely different and akin to the other one they prefer to use!0 -
An example of why to do a decent POPLA appeal and certainly why there's a need to rebut the evidence pack. The Prankster's comments above would have won it as a rebuttal of the signage evidence, to focus the Assessor's mind on the fact the signs were unreadable.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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please if I may .... to further my education
I stopped twice from posting ... thought about a new thread .....
but
will it be better in this context ?
under the old POPLA you could ask for an appeal / review / complain to the lead assessor .....
can this still be done under the new POPLA ?
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Probably, is the answer! Not tried it myself.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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You could never technically ask for an appeal; just sometimes you got one if you asked.
You could therefore file a complaint both with POPLA and the ISPA regarding the assessment. It would not I think result in a review, but it might make sure the NEXT person got a proper hearing, especially if a lot of these complaints came in. I think worth doing.Dedicated to driving up standards in parking0
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