I despair of the education system.

mumps

shaun_from_Africa wrote: »

But they were generally just told to "get over it". As far as I'm aware (and I may be wrong on this), I don't think that there was much psychiatric help available and many civilians (and quite a few soldiers) at the time were adamant that shell shock never existed.

and there are many reports of solders in WW1 being executed because of what is now known to be PTSD.

http://bullyonline.org/old/stress/ww1.htm

I don't know what happened to everyone but my grandfather had it after WWII, although he fought in WWI without getting it. He was admitted to hospital and did get psychiatric help.

I have just looked at details and although some men were executed that wasn't the norm, by the end of WWI there were 19 British Military hospitals solely devoted to treating shellshock. 346 British soldiers were executed for desertion/disobedience etc. It doesn't give any indication of how many of these may have been due to shellshock but presumably a hospital would be likely to treat more than 20 men so it seems more got treatment than were executed.

I also got a figure of 120,000 British ex-servicemen receivign final awards for primary psychiatric disability or still drawing pensions in 1939.

Plenty of people now don't believe PTSD exists.

missbiggles1

bylromarha wrote: »

You'll be pleased to know there will be national times tables tests from next year

Another stick to beat schools with.

I learnt mine by rote, lots of time was devoted to it in class. Schools these days have far far more in the maths curriculum by the end of primary school than I did in the 80s. I know my 11 yr old son was learning things in year 6 which I learnt in Year 9.

Add that in to the english requirements for year 6, and we're setting even more kids up to fail.

Good luck with this test
Friends who are doing/have done english MAs are reporting scores of 7,8,9. Not yet seen anyone claim 10/10.

Many of those questions simply use different vocabulary from the grammatical terms used in the past.

mumps

bylromarha wrote: »

You'll be pleased to know there will be national times tables tests from next year

Another stick to beat schools with.

I learnt mine by rote, lots of time was devoted to it in class. Schools these days have far far more in the maths curriculum by the end of primary school than I did in the 80s. I know my 11 yr old son was learning things in year 6 which I learnt in Year 9.

Add that in to the english requirements for year 6, and we're setting even more kids up to fail.

Good luck with this test
Friends who are doing/have done english MAs are reporting scores of 7,8,9. Not yet seen anyone claim 10/10.

I thought that test was quite tough, I got 9/10 and was quite relieved as I wasn't sure I would do that well.

balletshoes

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

I don't think it's down to being stupid.
I think it's down to the recent education system,
where learning your times tables (or indeed, how to do sums without a calculator) isn't considered necessary.

I don't consider myself to be exceptionally gifted, yet I, along with everyone else in my class, learned their times tables, and how to do simple mental arithmetic.

how recent are we talking? My daughter is 14, learning the times tables and doing "mental maths" is still done, she was expected to have known her times tables up to 10s (12 was optional) before she left primary school. They do mental maths at the beginning of some of her maths classes, to wake them up a bit in preparation for the lesson to come.

balletshoes

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

If it's not down to the teaching methods, how is it that every single pupil in my class (all 33 of them), left school, knowing their times tables?



My brother went to see my nephew's English teacher, to ask how he got 10/10 for his essay, when it was full of spelling mistakes.

The answer?

"We don't concern ourselves with spelling. We're only interested in ideas and content".

FGS, this is an ENGLISH lesson.

maybe the teaching target for his essay was for ideas and content, not for spelling and grammar, and maybe the teacher had already told their class this prior to setting the homework? Its not as black and white as you're painting things Bob.

Ilona

Nick_C wrote: »

It surprises me though how young people continue to measure their weight in stones and pounds and their height in feet and inches.

I am 5 feet 7 inches tall and weigh 8 stone 9 pounds. I am 66 years old. I have no idea what the metric equivalent is. :rotfl:

Ilona

Nick_C

Ilona wrote: »

I am 5 feet 7 inches tall and weigh 8 stone 9 pounds. I am 66 years old. I have no idea what the metric equivalent is. :rotfl:

Ilona

No disrespect Ilona, but I did say young people! Lol.

I joined a new gym recently, and had a fitness assessment with a personal trainer in his 20s. He measured me in imperial, which makes it very difficult to work out BMI.

[STRIKE]I thought most people know their height in metres as it's in their passports.[/STRIKE] Having a European partner, my bathroom scales have been set to kilos for the last 16 years. I've no idea what I weigh in stones (although I know how to work it out)

Edit: to strike out incorrect statement. Thanks Shaun

shaun_from_Africa

Nick_C wrote: »

I thought most people know their height in metres as it's in their passports.

Your height was on the old British passports (the ones with the dark blue cover) but it's not shown on the new EU United Kingdom passports.

Torry_Quine

missbiggles1 wrote: »

Many of those questions simply use different vocabulary from the grammatical terms used in the past.

that's why most of it made no sense at all to me, :rotfl:

Nick_C wrote: »

No disrespect Ilona, but I did say young people! Lol.

I joined a new gym recently, and had a fitness assessment with a personal trainer in his 20s. He measured me in imperial, which makes it very difficult to work out BMI.

I thought most people know their height in metres as it's in their passports. Having a European partner, my bathroom scales have been set to kilos for the last 16 years. I've no idea what I weigh in stones (although I know how to work it out)

I don't have a passport! Could work out my height in metres but have no idea what my weight in kilos is.

Bobcrowther

A cursory glance at the thread titles on this very forum will tell you all that you need to know.
People are morons.