Car Dealer didn't decare the car he sold me as a Cat D

BeenThroughItAll

Casaloco99 wrote: »

It was okay, but after 5 minutes it tried to regenerate and threw loads of black smoke out the exhaust.

Forgive my miscalculation, 650 + 2150 = 2800.

Removed the dial tone from the call.

Miscalculation? Why would you need to calculate how much cash you paid? Can't you remember?


I know for damn sure I'd remember laying out nearly three grand for a bloody Corsa.

Casaloco99

Miscalculation? Why would you need to calculate how much cash you paid? Can't you remember?


I know for damn sure I'd remember laying out nearly three grand for a bloody Corsa.

I came here for help and advise, not to be slaughtered on my maths skills...

I still have the receipt at home, I'm at work at the moment.

BeenThroughItAll

Casaloco99 wrote: »

I came here for help and advise, not to be slaughtered on my maths skills...

I still have the receipt at home, I'm at work at the moment.

I'm not 'slaughtering your maths skills'. I'm incredulous at the fact that anyone could buy a car less than three months ago, and not remember how much they paid, especially when the bulk of the balance was IN CASH.


If you can't remember whether you used 2000, 2100, 2200 or whatever, then you must have a lot more cash lying around than I do - and if that's the case, you should perhaps set your sights a bit higher than a Corsa.

DUTR

Casaloco99 wrote: »

I came here for help and advise, not to be slaughtered on my maths skills...

I still have the receipt at home, I'm at work at the moment.

Slaughtered is a bit of an exageration, but we know what you mean, that said, it needs to be polished as you are hoping for some compensation, which may require some arithmetic.
The advice is to persue it may cost more than the reward and even then that's assuming the complaint is succesful. Why won't you go and meet the seller as he invited?

Casaloco99

He isn't yet aware that I know the car is a Cat D.

Last time I met up with him, he was very condescending and lied through his teeth about the DPF being there upon sale. Then he offered to buy the car back at £1800 as a new DPF would be £1000 to source and fit.

And as for the maths, I did a quick sum in my head. I'm not on a high wage, I'm an apprentice who earns 625 a month... And I don't think your opinion of the car I purchased matters.

DUTR

Casaloco99 wrote: »

He isn't yet aware that I know the car is a Cat D.

Last time I met up with him, he was very condescending and lied through his teeth about the DPF being there upon sale. Then he offered to buy the car back at £1800 as a new DPF would be £1000 to source and fit.

So it sounds like he knows his stuff, you have to decide whether to live with it and be more careful in future or try and turn the episode into a drama?

tiggerbodhi

BeenThroughItAll wrote: »

Well that's irrelevant. If he wasn't aware, then you can't use it as evidence.

Another urban myth, you do not need to warn anyone the call is being recorded, there are OFCOM guidance notes and FSA rules on recording of phone calls, (basically somewhere on documentation or small print they need to say calls are recorded) but for a private individual you can record and play back the call to whoever you like, the legal issue is proving you have not "doctored" or edited the call in anyway.


As an aside the OP's call to the dealer proves or disproves diddly squat.

david_a

Am I owed any compensation? And was I in the wrong mapping the DPF out even though it wasn't present on sale?

In answer to your questions.

I would HPI the vehicle and establish is it a cat d. If it is then you are legally entitled to a full refund. As previously stated he must declare all information relevant to your decision to purchase. He cannot claim he was unaware of it being a cat d as the law assumes, that as a dealer,he knew it was because he has the resources to check. Also the previous owner said he told them it was. However as regular readers of this forum will know being entitled to and getting a refund are two different things.

If it is not a cat d then you are back to where you were before and will have to treat it as a lesson learned.

Please post the result of the HPI check.

BeenThroughItAll

tiggerbodhi wrote: »

Another urban myth, you do not need to warn anyone the call is being recorded, there are OFCOM guidance notes and FSA rules on recording of phone calls, (basically somewhere on documentation or small print they need to say calls are recorded) but for a private individual you can record and play back the call to whoever you like, the legal issue is proving you have not "doctored" or edited the call in anyway.


As an aside the OP's call to the dealer proves or disproves diddly squat.

I never said he had to tell anyone, nor said that he's not entitled to record or play back the call. I said it wouldn't be admissible evidence if he'd not warned the other party. Incidentally, OFCOM disagrees with your point of view in their published guidance:

Can I record telephone conversations on my home phone?

Yes. The relevant law, RIPA, does not prohibit individuals from recording their own communications provided that the recording is for their own use. Recording or monitoring are only prohibited where some of the contents of the communication - which can be a phone conversation or an e-mail - are made available to a third party, ie someone who was neither the caller or sender nor the intended recipient of the original communication. For further information see the Home Office website where RIPA is posted.


Do I have to let people know that I intend to record their telephone conversations with me?
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] No, provided you are not intending to make the contents of the communication available to a third party. If you are you will need the consent of the person you are recording. [/FONT]
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SOURCE: http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/archive/oftel/consumer/advice/faqs/prvfaq3.htm

DUTR

david_a wrote: »

Am I owed any compensation? And was I in the wrong mapping the DPF out even though it wasn't present on sale?

In answer to your questions.

I would HPI the vehicle and establish is it a cat d. If it is then you are legally entitled to a full refund. As previously stated he must declare all information relevant to your decision to purchase. He cannot claim he was unaware of it being a cat d as the law assumes, that as a dealer,he knew it was because he has the resources to check. Also the previous owner said he told them it was. However as regular readers of this forum will know being entitled to and getting a refund are two different things.

If it is not a cat d then you are back to where you were before and will have to treat it as a lesson learned.

Please post the result of the HPI check.

That's assuming the previous owner was telling the truth, I'd probaly have wound up the next owner just to lighten my day