Car Dealer didn't decare the car he sold me as a Cat D

BeenThroughItAll

Incidentally, any sharp eared person here who's good with touchtones? Soon be able to work out this bloke's number, which he could perhaps get... well, upset about.

DUTR

Casaloco99 wrote: »

I originally saw it advertised on the forecourt at 3500, he said the lowest he would take was 2800. I part exed my car for 650 and paid 2250 cash.

It wasn't until I looked on Autotrader that I found the same spec cars going for 300ish cheaper. Some were around the same price. All without a cat D marker.

Which makes it sound like buyers remorse, as does the tone of the call.
Why not take up the offer of the meeting?
If you want to persue the small claims then do so, no amount of discussing it here will vary the verdict.

Hermione_Granger

BeenThroughItAll wrote: »

Incidentally, any sharp eared person here who's good with touchtones?

I've no idea how good they are but:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dk.rafaelcouto.PhoneTone_Extractor&hl=en

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.encapsystems.dtmfd&hl=en

and I'm sure there are plenty of others available.

k3lvc

Casaloco99 wrote: »

I originally saw it advertised on the forecourt at 3500, he said the lowest he would take was 2800. I part exed my car for 650 and paid 2250 cash.

Maybe with your compo you can buy a new calculator


He offered it for £2800 and you paid £2900 :rotfl:

DUTR

BeenThroughItAll wrote: »

Well that's irrelevant. If he wasn't aware, then you can't use it as evidence.

And will he have permission from the employer to use the recording?

wrightk

bigjl wrote: »

What car is this?

As a car would not constantly Regen with a simple DPF removal, the engine management light would probably come on and it would likely be in limo mode.

A DPF Regens when the sensors see a reduction in flow. When the DPF is removed (or gutted) then the amount of flow is to high which is why the car will go into limp mode/put up the engine management light.

this is the only part of the OP's post i do not understand. If the DPF was removed before sale and whoever removed it failed to map out the ECU the car would probably not even run

k3lvc

wrightk wrote: »

this is the only part of the OP's post i do not understand. If the DPF was removed before sale and whoever removed it failed to map out the ECU the car would probably not even run

It was maybe too dark under the car and the OP thought it didn't matter

Casaloco99

It was okay, but after 5 minutes it tried to regenerate and threw loads of black smoke out the exhaust.

Forgive my miscalculation, 650 + 2150 = 2800.

Removed the dial tone from the call.

BeenThroughItAll

wrightk wrote: »

this is the only part of the OP's post i do not understand. If the DPF was removed before sale and whoever removed it failed to map out the ECU the car would probably not even run

Yes it would. If the ECU wasn't receiving a differential pressure which made sense from the pre/post DPF sensors, due to disconnection, removal or a faulty sensor, it would disable regeneration and put the emissions control light or EML on.


The bit of the post that makes no sense is the idea it was constantly regenerating the DPF - it couldn't possibly if the DPF wasn't there - the ECU would disable regeneration as it could be hazardous, bearing in mind most active regeneration relies on unburnt fuel igniting in the DPF to raise its temperature.

Casaloco99

Yes it would. If the ECU wasn't receiving a differential pressure which made sense from the pre/post DPF sensors, due to disconnection, removal or a faulty sensor, it would disable regeneration and put the emissions control light or EML on.


The bit of the post that makes no sense is the idea it was constantly regenerating the DPF - it couldn't possibly if the DPF wasn't there - the ECU would disable regeneration as it could be hazardous, bearing in mind most active regeneration relies on unburnt fuel igniting in the DPF to raise its temperature.

I only worked out it was regenerating after posting on Vauxhall Owners forum. They said they had seen a similar issue on a car which had the DPF removed but not deleted from the ECU. Looks like I had the same problem. 2007 Corsa D 1.7 CDTI

When regenerating, the Inst. Fuel Consumption on idle went from 0.1 to 0.6, the exhaust note changed and it poured out lots of smoke