Landlord won't agree to Energy 7 meter

Rubidium

Jmoo wrote: »

Let's look at it a different way. The EPC says that I should only pay around £270 for heating over 3 years. Factor in lighting and hot water overall £747 over 3 years working out £249 a year. Could I argue this with my letting agent that I'm paying far more?

Why can't you simply forget your letting agent.

You need to get on the most suitable tariff and then choose the best provider giving the best deal for your area and usage.

That is your right.

Jmoo

I spoke to SSE who seemed to do some strange calculation that suggested I may not benefit from moving to Economy 7 and it could cost slightly more. He also said I need to be sure that actually my storage meter would be set up in a way that ensured I was going to get charged for it as evening rate, as that's not always the case.

Hmmm!

Richie-from-the-Boro

Jmoo wrote: »

Let's look at it a different way. The EPC says that I should only pay around £270 for heating over 3 years. Factor in lighting and hot water overall £747 over 3 years working out £249 a year. Could I argue this with my letting agent that I'm paying far more?

You could argue that anyone reading a prospectus that asserts that £249 a year [£20 per month] will pay for room & water heat per year in any dwelling bigger than a well insulated wardrobe needs to apply common sense. The average 2015 UK small house / flat all electric household spend per annum is just short of £80 per month. So you or your agent expecting a whole energy bill of only a quarter of the 2015 rates is unrealistic, it might have been in the early 70's but not now.

Your only arguable legal point with an agent is the dwelling is inadequately heated. Your best solution is to have an E7 meter and tariff wired to your existing NSCH system. Your fall back solution is to heat only your living room with cheepo panel heating. Whatever outcome actually happens you need to realise that any adequate outcome is going to cost four times the figure you give.

macman

Jmoo wrote: »

Would a halogen heater therefore be economical?

It will be no more and no less economical than any other heater of the same rated output running on a single rate non E7 tariff. The only economic way if heating the property is to get an E7 meter, as numerous posts have advised you. Either take the advice or resign yourself to paying about 300% more.
It is nothing to do with your LL and his refusal is not enforceable.

Jmoo

Thank you. I am a little confused why SSE suggested E7 might not benefit me though. Nonetheless I will make an official complaint to my letting agent about it as it doesn't seem professional.

lstar337

Jmoo wrote: »

Thank you. I am a little confused why SSE suggested E7 might not benefit me though.

Simple answer? They just like to say stuff.

Since they don't know how much you'll use during the day and how much you'll use at night, they don't know squat!

Ignore what they are saying, it's bull manure!

Jmoo

That's fine. I just need to check my water heater now, presumably there will be a way to get that to work with the Economy 7 meter.

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sacsquacco wrote: »

Please check the actual timer switch to see what time the cheap 7 hours starts and stops to make best use of it.With the old 24 hr circular timer switches the cheap rate could be anywhere in the 24 hrs. even the digital ones can drift a couple of hours, only Radio teleswitch timers are spot on.

OP has only one meter, see post 18, so whether there is a timer or not makes no difference as there is no way to determine day and night usage.

OP have a read here, give you and idea of E7.

molerat

Jmoo wrote: »

Thank you. I am a little confused why SSE suggested E7 might not benefit me though. Nonetheless I will make an official complaint to my letting agent about it as it doesn't seem professional.

Don't waste your energy. All you will do is antagonise them and get your name on the S21 list.

lstar337

Jmoo wrote: »

That's fine. I just need to check my water heater now, presumably there will be a way to get that to work with the Economy 7 meter.

It should be a large insulated tank with a heater at the bottom for E7 water, and a heater at the top for boost (expensive) hot water. That being said, there are a lot of crummy installs out there. My previous place just had a single heater at the bottom for E7 and no boost at all.

If dual then the bottom should got to the timed E7 part of your consumer unit, if bottom only them that should go to the timed part of your consumer unit.

You may want to consider getting a sparkey in to check it all over after the new dual rate meter is installed.

FYI, your landlord and letting agents sound like idiots.