If we vote for Brexit what happens

David_Aston

"Remainer motive is surely to hamper May at the negotiating table."

Actually Conrad, remainer motive is to get at least one, possibly two more referenda, on staying in the EU!

That is the one thing that our government can actually do. As opposed to hoping for all sorts or deals with other countries, in and out of Europe.
A bit of a nuisance. Money to be found for referenda. However, I understand that you brexiters are extremely confident that the result would be the same. So no need to oppose it really?
And then, please, no more plebiscites, ever. Us plebs have shown we do need our parliament to study, discuss, and then implement policy for us.

Nellybee

The BBC arnt that biased at least they had this on there site

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37988095

setmefree2

The Penny Drops....

John McDonnell: Labour will not block hard Brexit – but will rely on 'moral pressure'

The Shadow Chancellor urges his colleagues to be 'positive' about leaving the EU - arguing that fighting Article 50 would put Labour on the side of 'corporate elites'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-labour-will-not-block-hard-exit-john-mcdonnell-article-50-vote-parliament-a7419186.html

The Shadow Chancellor used a speech on the economy to urge his colleagues to be “positive” about the "enormous opportunies" for Brexit and to give up any thoughts of delaying the triggering of the Article 50 notice.

Refusing to accept the reality of the EU exit would also be “leaving the field open to divisive Trump-style politics”.
Mr McDonnell said: “Labour accepts the referendum result as the voice of the majority and we must embrace the enormous opportunities to reshape our country that Brexit has opened for us.
“This means we must not try to re-fight the referendum or push for a second vote and, if Article 50 needs to be triggered in Parliament, Labour will not seek to block or delay it.
“It is time we all were more positive about Brexit.”

setmefree2

The stance was condemned by Caroline Lucas, the Green party’s co-leader, who accused Labour of a “premature capitulation” that would strengthen the Government’s hand.
She said: “We now have less power to persuade the government to give us proper details on their plans ahead of a vote.
“Though we should not seek to overturn the result of the referendum it is down to us as MPs to look closely at the deal on the table before throwing our support behind the government’s plans.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-labour-will-not-block-hard-exit-john-mcdonnell-article-50-vote-parliament-a7419186.html

Oh I see how it is - The government have to show their hand before negotiating with the EU but Labour shouldn't show theirs....

Conrad

David_Aston wrote: »

Actually Conrad, remainer motive is to get at least one, possibly two more referenda, on staying in the EU!

s.

You want more delay, more uncertainty then, and all the while Brussels will play along with these additional occilations, of course, silly me

Conrad

The Google announcement confirming a massive HQ in the UK and thousands more jobs pretty much kills the Remoaner notion we are going darn the pan. Why aren't they choosing the EU instead, I mean it's so much more viable....

setmefree2

Ireland must plan for possible EU breakup, says economic adviser

Sean Barrett calls on government of Enda Kenny to support France’s attempts to win concessions from Brussels to stop a ‘Frexit’

should be drawing up contingency plans for the EU unravelling after Brexit and a possible French departure, an economic adviser to successive Irish governments has said. Dr Sean Barrett urged Enda Kenny’s administration in Dublin to strongly back any French attempt to gain more concessions from Brussels to prevent a possible “Frexit”.

The economic expert claimed the republic had been too distracted by an election earlier this year to do more to persuade fellow EU states to grant David Cameron a better deal from Brussels to prevent Brexit.

“Ireland should have sought more concessions for the UK in order to give Mr Cameron more to put before voters in the referendum.

He said Ireland should have sided with Britain in “curtailing the superstate and regulating migration” during negotiations with Brussels.

“Ireland sleepwalked into the euro currency and paid the price in the banking collapse and bailout. The humiliation of Ireland by the European Central Bank and Mr Claude Trichet in particular has dampened down any remaining Irish enthusiasm for a federal Europe,” he said.
“The banking and economic collapses were inevitable. It was flawed policies and a flawed currency that brought a country down.”
The government and main opposition parties insist that Ireland, traditionally one of the most pro-European countries, remains committed to the EU project.

However, since the Brexit vote, there have been a few Irish voices questioning the wisdom of Ireland staying in the EU while its largest trading partner, the UK, is planning to leave.

Last month, the broadcaster and television presenter Gay Byrne said the republic should consider leaving the EU on the same day as Britain.

“Since our main trading partner in Ireland is the UK and our second main trading partner is America, it might be worth considering if they continue with Brexit that we could come out of Europe on the same day that Britain is coming out,” he said on his Lyric FM show.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/15/ireland-draft-plan-eu-breakup-frexit

gfplux

I find this sad but not surprising

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/brexit-blamed-rise-foreign-student-no-shows-top-business-schools-universities-a7418501.html

"EU students are failing to turn up for their studies this term as a result of Brexit, UK business schools have warned.
This is despite an increase in the number of applications from EU students overall prior to the referendum in June."

"As a result, education leaders have seconded that European schools outside the UK have become a much more attractive option to EU and many UK students, with institutions in cities such as Copenhagen and Amsterdam offering courses at a fraction of the price of British universities."

Other people will find it good news as less foreigners will be living/studying in the UK

Shakethedisease

Maybe they should drop this appeal thing.

Theresa May dealt fresh blow as Supreme Court judge signals major delay on starting Brexit

Lady Brenda Hale said a “simple Act of Parliament” may not be sufficient to start the process, arguing a 'comprehensive replacement' of a 1972 Act may be needed

A Supreme Court judge has suggested “comprehensive” legislation may be required to trigger Brexit, potentially delaying the move for two years.
In a dramatic intervention, Lady Brenda Hale said a “simple Act of Parliament” may not be sufficient to start the process, arguing replacement of the 1972 Act that took Britain into the EU in the first place may be needed.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-dealt-fresh-blow-as-supreme-court-judge-signals-major-delay-on-starting-brexit-a7418986.html

That shows that the Supreme Court could adjudicate not just the validity of the Government's appeal against the ruling, but also the precise remedy the Government must offer to the claimants if it loses its appeal.This means the Government could have to pass its Great Repeal Bill before triggering Article 50. The Great Repeal Bill is currently not planned to be introduced until the next session of Parliament after May.

http://news.sky.com/story/brexit-could-be-delayed-for-two-years-supreme-court-judge-warns-10658698

Masomnia

I get what the Court is saying in terms of consulting Parliament and seeking their approval, but imho questioning how Parliament goes about its business is overstepping the mark - surely in breach of the Bill of Rights?