If we vote for Brexit what happens

Conrad

Morrisey comes out for Brexit;


“As for Brexit, the result was magnificent, but it is not accepted by the BBC or Sky News because they object to a public that cannot be hypnotised by BBC or Sky nonsense. These news teams are exactly the same as Fox and CNN in that they all depend on public stupidity to create their own myth of reality. Watch them at your peril!”


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/morrissey-brexit-magnificent-britain-leave-european-union-a7379361.html

TrickyTree83

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Embracing modernity by turning the clock back to 1950 and abusing people on the streets because they have a different accent.

I'll pass thanks.

About 50% of people have an IQ lower than 100.

About 50% of people voted for Brexit.

Correlation sometimes equals causation.

How arrogant.

It has been said that the left project, I suspect that's true in this case.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Meanwhile parts of the Eurozone become poorer and poorer, with 5 of the 28 members seeing significant increase in those "at risk of poverty or social exclusion".

Nope, NOT the likes of Romania, Latvia or Bulgaria; these saw falls in the rate.

Luxembourg. (Yes, really.)
Italy.
Spain.
Cyprus.
Yes, and Greece.

What often gets lost in the discussion of growth rates, bail-outs and banking harmonisation is that the eurozone is turning into a poverty machine. As its economy stagnates, millions of people are falling into genuine hardship. Whether it is measured on a relative or absolute basis, rates of poverty have soared across Europe, with the worst results found in the area covered by the single currency.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/10/24/the-eurozone-is-turning-into-a-poverty-machine/

Conrad

Televised Select Committee revealed how Remain campaign Treasury forecasts were based on nothing more than highly erroneous input assumptions as ordered by Cameron to 'suit the political narrative of the time';

Fri 21 Oct 2016


bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08021fd

TrickyTree83

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Meanwhile parts of the Eurozone become poorer and poorer, with 5 of the 28 members seeing significant increase in those "at risk of poverty or social exclusion".

Nope, NOT the likes of Romania, Latvia or Bulgaria; these saw falls in the rate.

Luxembourg. (Yes, really.)
Italy.
Spain.
Cyprus.
Yes, and Greece.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/10/24/the-eurozone-is-turning-into-a-poverty-machine/

I'm glad someone is talking about this.

My EU national friends (Latvia, Bulgaria, Lithuania) have been telling me the same thing for years with regards to their home country - hence moving to the UK. The EU and the Euro have hollowed out vast swathes of industry they used to have.

University qualified accountants from Latvia now working as call centre operatives in the UK because the wages are better. That is a global corporatism scandal and more needs to be said about it.

We can all listen to the media and politicians about how good everything is, but it never beats information from the horses mouth.

Herzlos

Conrad wrote: »

The terrified Remoaner, scared of embracing change and modernity, fearful his own nation cant cope with making it's own decisions, full of woe and a harbinger doom. I'd call that 'living as a wuss'.

Remainers aren't necessarily scared of change or modernity. But change for changes sake is pointless, and it's debatable as to whether this is a step towards or away from modernization.

I'm all for change, where it makes sense. I don't believe Brexit makes sense.

Herzlos

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Yet another example of the EU liking useless regulation, then.

How dare they make road-going, road-speed, multi-ton vehicles, with wide, slick mud tyres a bit safer to use on the roads.

Tractors cost upwards of £200,000 to make. ABS will barely add anything to it, and certainly less than Brexit has increased the components cost by.

mayonnaise

Conrad wrote: »

Morrisey comes out for Brexit;

Yes, but Elton John came out for Remain.

Herzlos

Conrad wrote: »

People of vision considered we could do better making our own decisions. Their passion lead to the biggest vote in British history.

We're still talking about Brexit here?

This visionary being David Cameron?

The passion that led to this vote was that to quell dissent in his party and to stop his voters and donors moving to UKIP.

There's also no indication which way visionaries voted in the debate, though a lot of academics and researchers were very clearly Remain.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Herzlos wrote: »

How dare they make road-going, road-speed, multi-ton vehicles, with wide, slick mud tyres a bit safer to use on the roads.

Tractors cost upwards of £200,000 to make. ABS will barely add anything to it, and certainly less than Brexit has increased the components cost by.

May I respectfully suggest that - instead of facile remarks - you actually read the link?
You may then avoid looking so foolish as you currently do.

The cost increase (from my link) is quoted as:

from 2.5% to up to 10% of the vehicle price and reach up to €5,000 per machine,

That's one heck of a "barely anything".

Then there are a few reasons why ABS is actually less "safer to use on the roads" as you put it, including (from my link):

“An ABS-enabled evasive action on a narrow rural road may generate other, potentially far more severe dangers such as frontal collision with opposite traffic,” he noted, adding that operators may also fail to switch ABS on and off each time they enter or leave the road, particularly when they need to travel multiple times from farm to field in one single day.

'Nuff said really.