Transferring Carer's Allowance, Help

controversy

TomFletcher wrote: »

I'm Tom.

Hello, I am currently receiving ESA and DLA due to depression and anxiety.
I am looking to take over as carer for my friend (we live together), one of their family members is the current carer and is claiming carer's allowance.
I'm not sure how to go about claiming this, and don't know what benefits I will still receive.
Does anyone have any helpful information?

Thank You
I look forward to your responses.

Ignore TeaBag he just likes to abuse anyone on benefits regardless of their circumstances.

Now as I understand it you get ESA + DLA and your friend gets some form of ESA + DLA too.

What you need to do is get your friends family member to stop claiming carers allowance and allow your friend to claim the Severe Disability Premium on top of their ESA for themselves. This is like £61.85. Your friend will have to ring the ESA DWP number up and inform them about this.

Your friend will be able to do this if he/she is not on Universal Credit.

Its important to do it now so when you both get carried over to Universal Credit you will gain transitional protection and not be worse off due to the benefit change.

controversy

tea-bag wrote: »

But this is no more that me or my wife would do for each other of the kids as a family unit anyway? So why do we need to pay.

TeaBag if you want to harass someone on benefits please divert your attention towards me.

You know what disability I have. I am a genuine Psychopath with a rare genetic disability, autism and I also have incontinence issues.

I get £16062 in benefits a year (ESA+PIP+CTS) and I may soon have a job working 15 hours if my friends computer business can make the required changes to support me.

I will gain £5616 a year and I won't even have to pay Tax or NI on it. That is a total of £21678 NET.

This is called Permitted Work.

I will effectively be getting a salary of £27,000 which is more than you do in your job.

Now please divert your attention to me. I'm an attention seeking Psychopath and I don't care if you give me negative attention because I love every bit of it.

I'm just ahead of the curve you know.

NYM

I think it's about time this thread was closed.

marleyboy

FBaby wrote: »

I think the whole CA needs reviewing all together. This has to be the easiest benefit to claim as one that is never ever challenged by the authority. How many people truly provide 35 hours of care above what they would provide if the person wasn't disabled?

Once again, the principle was logical. If the person could receive care from someone they are close to allowing them to stay at home rather than go in a home and be looked after by strangers, that seems a very good investment. However, the reality is that the second someone gets DLA/PIP, someone who doesn't work sees it as an opportunity to claim some money or stop working regardless of whether the person actually requires 35 hours care (this is not one of the requirements to receive PIP), or whether the intend of providing it.

I know two mums who claim CA and have done so the second they managed to get a diagnosis for their kids. Neither worked before or intended to as they have more than 2 children to look after anyway and couldn't afford childcare. Both children are at school full-time and both of them are at their dad every other week-end. There is absolutely no way they provide 35 hours EXTRA care to these children. They just see it as added income because they are entitled to claim it and as they say, they would be stupid not to get it when it can pay for extras for the whole family.

Quite frankly, I find your post insulting!

I know somebody who had no choice but to give up their job in order to look after their disabled child. Six years later, they are still struggling at it, such a child with no communication whatsoever, who is also still in nappies and likely to be for the foreseeable future. This is not some 36 hour shift either, this is a 24 hour, 7 day a week shift.

They struggle to do this on CA, but still do it with pride as they love their Son. They do not look for these perks you claim, they do not sit down all day and work out what else they can screw out of the system, they hate the fact they have to use such a system, because brain dead bigots exist who really have'nt got a clue, have never lived it yet feel experienced enough to post scornful, accusational comments that are very ill thought out, regarding sitting on their backsides looking for the next handout.

I know this person quite well, for I am this person and have no shame in caring for my disabled Son nor claiming an allowance (from a system I have paid into all my life....just in case).

My only shame is in the attitude from certain members on here, for me having the bare faced cheek to even contemplate making a claim.

dippy3103

NYM wrote: »

I think it's about time this thread was closed.

I agree...


Folks- don't give him the satisfaction of biting

missbiggles1

nannytone wrote: »

my son in law was the higher earner, but he had to be the one caring because a 4 year old, with the control of a newborn . his head had to be supported, and due to steroids, he weighed around 3 stones.
my daughter was physically incapable of repeatedly lifting him

Sorry, I shouldn't've just assumed.

SnooksNJ

A_Flock_Of_Sheep wrote: »

Caring doesnt mean constant physical attention for five hours such as wiping the person's bottom. It could be just keeping them company, reading to them or with them, doing a jigsaw with them or watching a film with them. Perhaps even taking them out simply for a flask of soup and roll sat by the beach, countryside or whatever.

But of course the view of many it seem to me is the disabled person should do not more than just sit in a seat staring at four walls.

Nice misrepresentation.
Perhaps because I was raised that you should help people out it just blows my mind that people expect to be paid for doing the right thing.

Poppie68

SnooksNJ wrote: »

Nice misrepresentation.
Perhaps because I was raised that you should help people out it just blows my mind that people expect to be paid for doing the right thing.

If a carer can afford to give up work do the right thing as you call it without needing to claim CA then all well and good. The majority of them can't, sitting with them and providing interaction is part of caring..My daughter up until 12 months ago was receiving CA and IS for caring for me 9-5 Mon- Fri, after helping me get up, shower, dress, make breakfast, lunch, housework and stay with me because I can't be alone for an extended length of time... Oh and care for her 1 year-old, she used to go home and run her own home... She was earning 4 times the amount while employed but took a huge drop in income to 'do the right thing'...She's lucky because she doesn't have debt and spends well within her means but for a 23 it was still tough... We had to stop her because she was run ragged and never ever found time to have her own life..

I receive high DLA for both elements and ESA and all of that plus £ 200 of my husband's wage goes on paying full-time carers and my additional care costs.

nannytone_2

controversy wrote: »

TeaBag if you want to harass someone on benefits please divert your attention towards me.

You know what disability I have. I am a genuine Psychopath with a rare genetic disability, autism and I also have incontinence issues.

I get £16062 in benefits a year (ESA+PIP+CTS) and I may soon have a job working 15 hours if my friends computer business can make the required changes to support me.

I will gain £5616 a year and I won't even have to pay Tax or NI on it. That is a total of £21678 NET.

This is called Permitted Work.

I will effectively be getting a salary of £27,000 which is more than you do in your job.

Now please divert your attention to me. I'm an attention seeking Psychopath and I don't care if you give me negative attention because I love every bit of it.

I'm just ahead of the curve you know.

i accept you have the conditions you point out, but would like to add that being a psychopath is just a personality trait and not a mental health condition.
many successful business men and sportsmen have the psychopathic personality trait. probably because this trait is what makes them singleminded and allows them to concentrate on what is important to them and ignore everything else that goes on around.

SnooksNJ

Poppie68 wrote: »

If a carer can afford to give up work do the right thing as you call it without needing to claim CA then all well and good. The majority of them can't, sitting with them and providing interaction is part of caring..My daughter up until 12 months ago was receiving CA and IS for caring for me 9-5 Mon- Fri, after helping me get up, shower, dress, make breakfast, lunch, housework and stay with me because I can't be alone for an extended length of time... Oh and care for her 1 year-old, she used to go home and run her own home... She was earning 4 times the amount while employed but took a huge drop in income to 'do the right thing'...She's lucky because she doesn't have debt and spends well within her means but for a 23 it was still tough... We had to stop her because she was run ragged and never ever found time to have her own life..

I receive high DLA for both elements and ESA and all of that plus £ 200 of my husband's wage goes on paying full-time carers and my additional care costs.

I took care of a family member when I was younger and never expected to be paid for it. Funny thing is I never lived beyond my means or ended up heavily in debt either.
Nice little jab though.