Transferring Carer's Allowance, Help

nannytone_2

ab1982 wrote: »

Very sad for your & families loss.

I didn't say they should receive nothing (I specifically suggested subsidised childcare) please dont put words into my mouth.

i wasn't referring solely to your post , that why i said 'other posts'.
sorry if you misundersstood

A_Flock_Of_Sheep

Everyone here seems to know someone who is claiming something they perceive they shouldn't be getting. How do people know for certain they are not genuine and not giving 35 hours a week of care. That only works out at 5 hours a day or just 20% of a 24 hour period. It does not have to be all in a row either. 5 hours can soon be used up if the person cooks, hoovers, washes, changes the bed, does shopping for the person. How long does it take to do shopping from leaving home to getting back. How long does it take to cook a meal from first starting preparation to putting the final plate away after washing up. Multiply this for three meals a day.

Caring doesnt mean constant physical attention for five hours such as wiping the person's bottom. It could be just keeping them company, reading to them or with them, doing a jigsaw with them or watching a film with them. Perhaps even taking them out simply for a flask of soup and roll sat by the beach, countryside or whatever.

But of course the view of many it seem to me is the disabled person should do not more than just sit in a seat staring at four walls.

ab1982

nannytone wrote: »

i wasn't referring solely to your post , that why i said 'other posts'.
sorry if you misundersstood

No worries, I clearly misunderstood you quoting my post as refering to it my mistake obvs.

A_Flock_Of_Sheep

Carer's allowance works out at £1.77 an hour. I think that is fantastic value. But to all the moaners I think we should scrap it and get someone in from the authority earning minimum wage for people. You see the moaning then as taxes would need to raise.

ab1982

A_Flock_Of_Sheep wrote: »

Carer's allowance works out at £1.77 an hour. I think that is fantastic value. But to all the moaners I think we should scrap it and get someone in from the authority earning minimum wage for people. You see the moaning then as taxes would need to raise.

That's not a fair sum though. You don't take into account economies of scale, I don't think all need 1:1 care. There is also the opportunity cost of a parent going to work in economic productivity and tax take terms. Plus employment boost for childcare professionals, more tax again, more disposable income, more vat. Impossible to put numbers to for sure.


Main benefit would be parents have a choice and fair equal cost to all.

A_Flock_Of_Sheep

ab1982 wrote: »

That's not a fair sum though. You don't take into account economies of scale, I don't think all need 1:1 care. There is also the opportunity cost of a parent going to work in economic productivity and tax take terms. Plus employment boost for childcare professionals, more tax again, more disposable income, more vat. Impossible to put numbers to for sure.


Main benefit would be parents have a choice and fair equal cost to all.

Carer's allowance is not just for children. And I am sure the majority of claimants would much rather not have to endure the difficulties of having a disabled child, relative or partner that means they are unable to go out to work and earn significantly more than the equivalent of £1.77 an hour.

You don't think all needs 1:1 care. There we go again. Making assumptions based on nothing or perhaps a perception of a neighbour down the road.

bloolagoon

Darksparkle wrote: »

Even taking childcare into account, the person is still worse off.

Income of £25,000 is £20,089 net.

Less childcare £10,000 leaves an income of £10,089.

Carers only give £3224 so the household is still nearly £7000 worse off per year.

Many people then say but you won't have travel costs or lunch costs but not everyone has these additional costs, or no more so than making lunch at home, extra gas/electricity etc.

Suprised you missed CTC from that as on £50k (2 x £25k income) there's no CTC yet on £25k with a disability element there is

A_Flock_Of_Sheep

I think people should stop being so judgemental and be eternally thankful that they don't find themselves in a situation where they have a disabled child, partner or even themselves in such situation. Life for us disabled people is a pile of carp so dont think we are all living it up for free. Life is over for us so at least let us live our lives out in pace without petty interferences and judging.

missbiggles1

A_Flock_Of_Sheep wrote: »

Everyone here seems to know someone who is claiming something they perceive they shouldn't be getting. How do people know for certain they are not genuine and not giving 35 hours a week of care. That only works out at 5 hours a day or just 20% of a 24 hour period. It does not have to be all in a row either. 5 hours can soon be used up if the person cooks, hoovers, washes, changes the bed, does shopping for the person. How long does it take to do shopping from leaving home to getting back. How long does it take to cook a meal from first starting preparation to putting the final plate away after washing up. Multiply this for three meals a day.

Caring doesnt mean constant physical attention for five hours such as wiping the person's bottom. It could be just keeping them company, reading to them or with them, doing a jigsaw with them or watching a film with them. Perhaps even taking them out simply for a flask of soup and roll sat by the beach, countryside or whatever.

But of course the view of many it seem to me is the disabled person should do not more than just sit in a seat staring at four walls.

A_Flock_Of_Sheep wrote: »

Carer's allowance works out at £1.77 an hour. I think that is fantastic value. But to all the moaners I think we should scrap it and get someone in from the authority earning minimum wage for people. You see the moaning then as taxes would need to raise.

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I bet you can't see the irony in these two posts.:D

A_Flock_Of_Sheep

I bet you can't see the irony in these two posts.:D[/QUOTE]

No but I can of course trust you to twist it into some kind of "anti benefits" crusade :T