How to transfer to PiP

nannytone_2

Newly_retired wrote: »

There are so many people who cannot use a computer.
Since JSA went online many Jobseekers are disadvantaged because they may have to travel some distance to a library or other place where there are computers they can use.
People claiming PIP often have problems going out, for reasons of lack of mobility or severe anxiety, so making it compulsory to claim online would not be in their interest.
If the OP can get to a CAB they will ( on appointment) write his answers on to the paper form, provided he can sign it. What is more, they will know how to word the answers to enable him to score the points he will need to qualify. OP if you do not know what I mean about points, you do need to read up on PIP before you apply.

they don't need to make the forms '9nline only', but i don't see why they couldn't use both paper forms and online ones

50Twuncle

nannytone wrote: »

they don't need to make the forms '9nline only', but i don't see why they couldn't use both paper forms and online ones

Ideal solution - but will they ever do this ?
What do you think ...

Rodders53

IF I recall correctly. The old DLA forms were editable pdf's --- even though you had to print them to send in.

I was most surprised the PIP was paper only. Really is something many would fine useful.

A large range of Government forms are editable pdfs having had to go through Probate recently.

teddysmum

50Twuncle wrote: »

I assume that you can write clearly and have never come across a problem like this ?
My problem is that, far from illiterate - I have a physical problem holding a pen - and making it stay on the paper - but call it ILLITERATE if you are that way inclined

tomtontom is not saying that you are illiterate.

After I mentioned that a signature need not be legible (mine isn't), he commented that just a cross is acceptable from people who are illiterate (no mention of your being illiterate).

My grandmother was blind, back in the days before signature windows were invented, and signed for her pension with a cross, countersigned by my mother.

nannytone_2

teddysmum wrote: »

tomtontom is not saying that you are illiterate.

After I mentioned that a signature need not be legible (mine isn't), he commented that just a cross is acceptable from people who are illiterate (no mention of your being illiterate).

My grandmother was blind, back in the days before signature windows were invented, and signed for her pension with a cross, countersigned by my mother.

i don't like the signature windows and find them difficult to use.
for most forms, as long as a signature is present, they aqrent to fussed about it being in the right place.

did have fun and games when i applied for a passport though.... don't know how many times i had to attempt it before i got my signature completely in the box

50Twuncle

Rodders53 wrote: »

IF I recall correctly. The old DLA forms were editable pdf's --- even though you had to print them to send in.

I was most surprised the PIP was paper only. Really is something many would fine useful.

A large range of Government forms are editable pdfs having had to go through Probate recently.

Exactly what I was saying......
How much effort would it be to convert to editable PDF's ?
and How many people would it help ?
Plus "machine reading" of typed PDF's is nuch simpler and more reliable, than hand written forms
So it's win win ...
And whilst they are doing this - they need to re-think the claims procedure - how do non-speakers phone the helpline to start a claim (or notify them of any changes) ?
and before anyone says "GET SOMEONE ELSE TO PHONE FOR YOU"
I have a wife - but many don't and in any case - I prefer to deal with this sort of thing myself !!

ab1982

Maybe make it multiple choice too eh.

50Twuncle

ab1982 wrote: »

Maybe make it multiple choice too eh.

It already is (tick box) !!

teddysmum

nannytone wrote: »

i don't like the signature windows and find them difficult to use.
for most forms, as long as a signature is present, they aqrent to fussed about it being in the right place.

did have fun and games when i applied for a passport though.... don't know how many times i had to attempt it before i got my signature completely in the box

My brother-in-law used his , when he suddenly went totally blind, at 25. I don't know whether he still does.

TrickyWicky

Sorry not read all the replies so this is in teply to the OP...

The county council may have a benefits specialist for situations like this so I would advise you contact them. They may not be easy to find but the local mental health team may well be able to put you in touch (Note i'm not saying you have any mental health issues, just that they probably have better access to these people due to the nature of their work).

I didn't believe they existed... thinking i'd be sent to the CAB or something but my local mental health team contacted my CC benefits expert who then visited me and did the application for me. If your CC has this service you should definitely make use of it.