and the biggest threat to the UK economy in 2016 is...

mwpt

.string. wrote: »

Then the solution is apparently very simple:

Refuse entryimmigrants who do not belong to the EU and pass a law banning more than 1 child per person.

But that's got nothing to do with the EU

... , and to be really sure about not diluting our Anglo Saxon culture, ban Christmas trees, Star Trek, any religion but C of E and French Cheeses.


Just how myopic do you want to get? Your choice.

I wonder if I'll be deported? It'll be a bit sad after 12 years here.

CLAPTON

.string. wrote: »

Then the solution is apparently very simple:

Refuse entryimmigrants who do not belong to the EU and pass a law banning more than 1 child per person.

But that's got nothing to do with the EU

... , and to be really sure about not diluting our Anglo Saxon culture, ban Christmas trees, Star Trek, any religion but C of E and French Cheeses.


Just how myopic do you want to get? Your choice.

I would indeed ban all immigration except for a few thousands until our facilities are fit for purpose of the people already here.
Lets say at least 1.5 million homes so that people here can enjoy a better quality of life (plus appropriate other supporting infrastructure).
At least 20% more NHS staff and associated facilities

I want a better future for the people here and immigration will make the future worse.

I have no interest in your racist (and/or nonsensical) reference to Anglo Saxons, but I guess if the Nazi had won the war you would have been content with that because in 500 years it would all be part of our 'rich' history.

MacMickster

Nobody has so far commented on the developing political situation in Spain. IF an economy far larger than Greece ends up with an anti-austerity government, then how the EU (or just Germany) is seen to react to that at a time when we are likely to be facing our referendum may impact on our views about whether the EU is a benign and democratic members club, or is in fact dominated by the member who carries the biggest stick.

Rinoa

BobQ wrote: »

Referendums are a relatively modern thing. Most people have not voted on all sorts of Treaties signed on their behalf by our Government. Most people have not voted on UN membership or joining NATO either.

Yes. It's a novel idea asking people what they would like. Personally I wish they would do it more often.

BobQ wrote: »

Since in this case the Government has promised one we should of course hold one. Hopefully those who favour leaving understand the implications of the decision not just for our future but in terms of the complexities of disentangling the treaty obligations we have entered into in the past 42 years and remain committed to if we leave the EU.

Well, it didn't appear too difficult entering into the complexities of the EU. I doubt whether it would be any more burdensome disengaging from them.

tkane

I cannot wait to cast my vote to leave the EU, regardless of the outcome of the negotiations.

Having studied EU Law as part of my LLB, I am genuinely concerned for Britain's sovereignty. Jose Manuel Barroso is on record as saying that a United States of Europe is 'inevitable'.

I will vote for my country!

Rich2808

The housing market - because it IS the UK economy!

Sapphire

.string. wrote: »

Regarding flippant - yes I did exaggerate for effect in using the term Fourth Reich to get the point across but as for being flippant - I refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of vendettas that spread over generations. It was 70 years ago for Heavens sake! I worked for over 30 years with Germans, as people in industry, as colleagues, as bosses or people that worked for me and with personal friends and I can tell you that with only one exception they were all people that any of us could relate to and whose company we would all enjoy. None of them fought in the 2nd World War and I felt rather safe. You may find that strange, but it's the truth.

I worked also during that time with citizens of most European Countries and found little disagreeable from any, bar the odd garlic breath.

I've also worked with many indigenous Europeans, including Germans, and have found them to be very likeable people. However, I do disagree profoundly with what Merkel has been doing over the last year or so, and do believe she is attempting to create a United States of Europe, with Germany dictating to other, weaker Europen countries. That is something I cannot accept.

BobQ

Rinoa wrote: »

Well, it didn't appear too difficult entering into the complexities of the EU. I doubt whether it would be any more burdensome disengaging from them.

If only it were that simple.

mwpt

MacMickster wrote: »

Nobody has so far commented on the developing political situation in Spain. IF an economy far larger than Greece ends up with an anti-austerity government, then how the EU (or just Germany) is seen to react to that at a time when we are likely to be facing our referendum may impact on our views about whether the EU is a benign and democratic members club, or is in fact dominated by the member who carries the biggest stick.

I have a very simple solution for that. If a government does not want to meet the conditions of the lender, they may choose to borrow elsewhere.

For example, Greece could choose, meet the 'austerity' conditions and obtain ultra low interest rates from Europe. Or choose to not meet the conditions and borrow on the free market.

We will soon see whether austerity is a choice that left wing governments can offer their voters, or not.

mayonnaise

.string. wrote: »

But the non EU migration is nothing to do with the EU except that it introduces a filter. How do you imagine that leaving the EU will improve the situation any more than we are entitled to do at the moment?

We never seem to get answers from the bigot crowd to these rather straightforward questions.