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Which TV to buy 4K or 3D

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  • missile
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    I bought a 4K Samsung and the picture & sound quality is far better than my previous TV. Like you, I chose to buy from John Lewis.


    It came with 3D which I don't use. Content is limited for adults, but if you have kids / grandkids there are quite a few titles available. The effect is surprisingly good.


    You obviously have internet, so I would suggest you take a free trial Netflicks / Amazon / Now TV rather than buying a new DVD player. I can't remember when I last used mine.
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  • lee111s
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    edited 24 December 2015 at 11:45AM
    motorguy wrote: »
    I disagree strongly. We've just upgraded to a 4K 55 inch Samsung and frankly its amazing.

    http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/tv-dvd-audio/televisions/televisions/samsung-ue55ju6800-smart-ultra-hd-4k-55-led-tv-10135516-pdt.html



    I'm not saying 4K LED TV's aren't good, but they're quite considerably inferior to an OLED panel when it comes to contrasts and depth of blacks.


    Here's a snippet taken from the above CES article which I've just read AFTER posting this, hence the edit...


    "55-inch 4K or 55-inch OLED? Duh, OLED. 4K is just better tires on an old car. OLED is a whole new car. "
  • lee111s
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    tony6403 wrote: »



    Can I also point out that article was written years ago.


    The same guy has written a new one last month - http://www.cnet.com/news/4k-tvs-arent-stupid-anymore/
  • RumRat
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    lee111s wrote: »
    I'm not saying 4K LED TV's aren't good, but they're quite considerably inferior to an OLED panel when it comes to contrasts and depth of blacks.
    That's true of everything compared to an OLED, There is also Quantum Dot TV's to consider if you are going down that avenue.
    The 4K TV's are not genuine 4K resolution but 3820x2160 or UHD.
    If you want to future proof, make sure whatever 4K/UHD TV you get has HDMI 2 or you will be restricted to 30fps on HDMI 1.4.

    To be honest if your TV suffers with Eastenders, Corrie and the One Show etc. 4K may be a step too far. That said, my money would always buy the best available for whatever budget I had. If the budget stretched to 4K then that's where I would go. If it stretched to OLED then of course that would be the choice.
    With UHD TV's dropping in price rapidly, it will probably become the norm in the next year as people replace older sets.
    Neither buying one or not buying one is right. It's a choice we all have to make alone....;)
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  • Daz2009
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    I think you're right in that 4k TVs will be so cheap they will become minimum spec just like HD is now which is why I wouldn't go out of my way to buy one now.
    I am not a subscriber to early adoption,it doesn't really make sense to the majority of consumers who just want to watch EastEnders or X-Factor :)
  • Lumstorm
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    lee111s wrote: »
    I'm not saying 4K LED TV's aren't good, but they're quite considerably inferior to an OLED panel when it comes to contrasts and depth of blacks."

    OLED is a different technology an OLED screen the pixels produce their own light whereas an LCD screen doesn't and has to have a light source behind the screen to light it. So OLED has more precise control over light levels.

    I have seen people in shops buying their 4K TV's and a few that I have seen seem to think that they are going to be watching everything in 4K (4K upscaling is not 4K) and many will buy 4K but never watch any 4K material, similar to people who buy a HD TV then watch movies on their DVD player rather than use a BD player.
  • FredG
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    Upscaling from a native resolution is an advantage? News to me. No amount of magic tricks can create extra pixels in the source material.


    Buy the panel with the best contrast ratio, the best refresh rate, the best response time and the best colour accuracy that displays content at a resolution suitable for the size and viewing distance of the display. Resolution is never the be all and end all.
  • fred246
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    I went to look at 4K Tvs. Nice picture. But why were they showing pictures of the Taj Mahal or pictures of flowers with tiny rain droplets. Not the sort of stuff I usually watch. What sources of 4K are there? Not on freeview. what bandwidth is required to stream it? About 15Mbps. Ah yes so back to buffering if I try to use it. There'll probably be an expensive 4K player to play expensive 4K discs. The HD version of the TV I bought was £800, the 4K version £1400. So I saved my £600 in the bank. In a few years I'll get a 4K, but I won't be paying a premium price, it'll be standard.
  • tony6403
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    lee111s wrote: »
    Can I also point out that article was written years ago.


    The same guy has written a new one last month - http://www.cnet.com/news/4k-tvs-arent-stupid-anymore/

    Yes, that is included in the link which I posted.
    Forgotten but not gone.
  • bluesnake
    bluesnake Posts: 1,460 Forumite
    kah22 wrote: »
    ... I can't fix it to the wall as it is just plasterboard plastered over and painted

    I would do something similar to this below, but would probably put up 3/4 or an 1" ply or chipboard/ply on top of the plasterboard screwed into the studwork, but then mount the bracket on top of that. The though professionally the plasterboard should be removed and chipboard placed between the studs. The tv, if large enough will cover your short cut.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ2O7c8BSDY
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