Help - PCN letter from UCS

chris0147

yotmon wrote: »

Think u need to ask the committee why not.

Seeing as you have been a resident there for 30 years, I would have thought that you would have been at the front of the queue when they were doling them out.

Keep at them and get them to solve the problem for you.

They won't give me one, it is bloody daft for them to say no when I live here for 30 years.

Do I need to contact someone that goes higher than the committee?

chris0147

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Nope. TELL him it's illegal on private land; was made a criminal offence in 2012:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/9155/guidance-unpaid-parking-charges.pdf

Section 54 makes it an offence to clamp, remove or otherwise immobilise a vehicle without lawful authority in England and Wales, from 1 October 2012.

To be guilty of the offence, the person immobilising or moving the vehicle must
intend to prevent or inhibit the removal of the vehicle by its driver or owner,
whether or not there is any intent to demand a fee for release of the vehicle. The
maximum penalty for the offence is an unlimited fine on conviction in the crown
court; or a fine of up to the statutory maximum [currently £5,000] in the
Magistrates' court.

Ok thank you for your advice, I know that if they clamp or tow my car it will be illegal.

When I spoke to a adviser on the phone, they said if I park my car in a private car park, the PPC can tow my car away so they advised me to park my car in a council road. Do you agree with them?

However, I have spoke to a police officer on an email after I spoke to him on youtube, he said it is a criminal offence to tow away a car without lawful authority...

He said it is not a good idea to park my car in a private car park until I get the resident permit to sort it out. He also said that if I don't pay the tickets, it is possible the PPC take me to court. He said it is not a good idea to ignore the penalty charge notice. He said that his son got the same penalty charge notice as I have and he paid it which he was really silly...

I wonder that if I am in the safe hand to park my car in a private car park without the resident permit as long the PPC don't have the power to take me to court, clamp or tow my car?

I have got 5 PCN right now, so can they take me to court if I ignore to pay the PCN and if I get too many PCN that I choose to ignore and not to pay?

Fruitcake

chris0147 wrote: »

Ok thank you for your advice, I know that if they clamp or tow my car it will be illegal.

When I spoke to a adviser on the phone, they said if I park my car in a private car park, the PPC can tow my car away so they advised me to park my car in a council road. Do you agree with them?


No. Stop listening to people who do not know what they are talking about.

However, I have spoke to a police officer on an email after I spoke to him on youtube, he said it is a criminal offence to tow away a car without lawful authority...


He is correct.

He said it is not a good idea to park my car in a private car park until I get the resident permit to sort it out. He also said that if I don't pay the tickets, it is possible the PPC take me to court. He said it is not a good idea to ignore the penalty charge notice. He said that his son got the same penalty charge notice as I have and he paid it which he was really silly...


Part of this is correct and part of it is wrong. It's not a penalty charge and a police officer should know that, or did you make that bit up? Don't ignore the PCNs, appeal them.

I wonder that if I am in the safe hand to park my car in a private car park without the resident permit as long the PPC don't have the power to take me to court, clamp or tow my car?


It is perfectly safe. You just have to appeal each and every PCN as already advised.

I have got 5 PCN right now, so can they take me to court if I ignore to pay the PCN and if I get too many PCN that I choose to ignore and not to pay?

You have been told not to ignore. You have been told to appeal. Please do as you have been advised. One appeal for each and every PCN. Ignore the debt collectors.

yotmon

chris0147 wrote: »

They won't give me one, it is bloody daft for them to say no when I live here for 30 years.

Do I need to contact someone that goes higher than the committee?

Did you ask them why they won't issue you with a residents parking permit ?

chris0147

Fruitcake wrote: »

You have been told not to ignore. You have been told to appeal. Please do as you have been advised. One appeal for each and every PCN. Ignore the debt collectors.

Wow! I have made an appeal and they rejected my appeal in 2 days so why do you think I should be bothered then?

I have not make the appeal for each PCN so far in one month and nothing has happens.

chris0147

yotmon wrote: »

Did you ask them why they won't issue you with a residents parking permit ?

Yes I have and they said they can't put me on the tenant because they are not allowed something got to do with breaking the rules or something like that I cannot remember what they said.

Coupon-mad

Post #4 of the NEWBIES thread is back in the right place with the links about 'ignore the debt collector' stage. So, have a read of the links there and you can see we've advised this for almost a decade.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/64350600#Comment_64350600

Debt collectors have no powers. So, ignore the debt collector letter chain.

yotmon

chris0147 wrote: »

Yes I have and they said they can't put me on the tenant because they are not allowed something got to do with breaking the rules or something like that I cannot remember what they said.

I'm sorry, but that doesn't make sense. Are you an 'official' tenant, 'having resided there for thirty years', or are you an 'unofficial' lodger at someone else's home ?
To be able to understand your predicament, you need to clarify all the reasons why the Housing assoc' are taking such a hard line against issuing you with a parking permit.

If you 'can't remember what they said' then ask them to write down the reason for the refusal, it may come in handy for future reference.