Can disabled people park in parent and child spaces?

arcon5

facade wrote: »

When I was a toddler, I had to be kept attached to my parents by reigns, otherwise I would have gone off wreaking mayhem, rather like the toddlers that run round Tescos do now.
I couldn't open the car door because of child locks, so I had to be let out by a parent who would stop the door hitting someone else's car.

And when you was at an age you required assistance getting our or being strapped in are you saying your parents didn't struggle to do it with one hand or using both hands and their heel to keep the door from being blown open...

since I presume you wasn't born with the ability to get in and out of cars and strap yourself in safely rather than a skill that developed with age.

arcon5

AdrianC wrote: »

I haven't expressed any views. All I've done is point out that it is perfectly possible - easy, even - for the average parent(s) to not actually take children to the supermarket in the first place. Whether there is a requirement or not for the retailer to make adjustments to suit the particular choice of a subset of customers should be viewed through that filter.

Was I disobedient as a child? Hell, yes. Especially when I was bored out of my brain through being dragged round somewhere I didn't want to be. Like a supermarket.

Okay, so what do we parents do with our children when we go shopping? Since many now work, child care is often unaffordable or unavailable in evenings and weekends and not everybody has people that can look after their children on a regular basis.

Well it's not as simple as palming your children off on to somebody else every week or every other week. And clearly supermarkets are equally aware of the difficulties you face as a parent otherwise they wouldn't try to offer facilities to help accomodate for this.

AdrianC

arcon5 wrote: »

Okay, so what do we parents do with our children when we go shopping? Since many now work, child care is often unaffordable or unavailable in evenings and weekends and not everybody has people that can look after their children on a regular basis.

Let me remind you what I actually said...

When I was growing up, both my parents worked full-time, there was no internet shopping, and supermarkets weren't open HALF as many hours as they are now.

Assuming you're not a single parent, do you never have a single hour during the week when one of you can get away from partner+children to go to the supermarket?
If you are a single parent, do you never have a spare hour when the kid(s) are with somebody else?
Not even a diversion to the supermarket on the way back from work?
Either way, do you not have a single point in the week when you can predict a couple of days ahead that you will be at home for the shopping to be delivered?

sheramber

arcon5 wrote: »

That's a bit unfair.
You've clearly never had to load a child in to a car seat on a windy day in a stupidly tiny spot with a £20k car next to you.
Or probably have never even had kids, otherwise you'd understand even the best of parents will at some point have to manage a child whom is being far from obedient... especially at younger ages! ALL kids go through stages of good and bad.


One day you may have kids in which case I suspect you may see things a little differently.

I have many times when there was no such thing as parent child places.

I do't know how I and my children survived in such olden days.

Maybe we parked out of the way in a quiet part to the carpark. Oh wait, that would involve walking.

facade

arcon5 wrote: »

And when you was at an age you required assistance getting our or being strapped in are you saying your parents didn't struggle to do it with one hand or using both hands and their heel to keep the door from being blown open...

I would imagine that my father would have parked where he could open the door enough, and if we returned to the car and he couldn't because someone had parked against us, he would have pulled forwards until I/my mother could have opened it fully.

Supermarket shopping was a family experience then, he wouldn't have taken me on his own, and my mother never learned to drive.

Oh, and what are these "straps" you seem to refer to, in my day you just bounced around loose in the back once you were too big for the carrycot.

Anyway, I think the OP got the answers on page #1.

Now we are just arguing about whether or not you can open the doors enough to get in and out. The answer is obviously "Not in a modern carpark unless you park away from the herd, or use the M&C spaces."

I always park well away from the herd so I can actually open the doors, yet 50% of the time, I return 20 minutes later to find a car parked 6" off the drivers side of mine, even though the rest of that area is completely clear of cars.
I think they do it just to make my day that little bit more miserable than it was before

robbies_gal

tell her to !!!! off ignorant cow

oh and while im here there ued to be no such thing and p and c spaces-people coped

Andypandyboy

arcon5 wrote: »

That's a bit unfair.
You've clearly never had to load a child in to a car seat on a windy day in a stupidly tiny spot with a £20k car next to you.
Or probably have never even had kids, otherwise you'd understand even the best of parents will at some point have to manage a child whom is being far from obedient... especially at younger ages! ALL kids go through stages of good and bad.


One day you may have kids in which case I suspect you may see things a little differently.

I have had several children and I agree with what has been posted. Marketing hype, nothing more.

duchy

DUTR wrote: »

The police thing is a bit dramatical, in the past P&C spaces were just that but no enforcement , only one parent and child seat to be in use, the local supermarket here now have got the enforcement gang in, I hear from staff that people have been 'fined' for over staying or misuse of the spaces, blue badge holders not exempt in an equal society.

I disagree- if a stranger was verbally abusing me to the degree the OP is claiming I'd have no problem getting the police involved .

molerat

Iceweasel wrote: »

Anyone can legally park in any space in any supermarket car park.

Unless adopted under the Disabled Persons' Parking Places (Scotland) Act 2009

Iceweasel

molerat wrote: »

Unless adopted under the Disabled Persons' Parking Places (Scotland) Act 2009

How many of them might there be, and how does one recognize them?