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my grip with windows 10
londonTiger
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First things first, it was worth the upgrade. I upgraded all my machines to windows 10 and recently built a machine and purchased a windows 10 license and installed it.
I have SSD on all my drives, and at this day in age, you really must have an SSD.
Boot times = amazing, for me it takes 20 seconds to get to a windows desktop from cold boot.
The new task view is nothing short of amazing, the ability to switch desktop will be great for users who need to multi-task and have just 1 monitor. I have 2 monitors so the featue isn't as useful for me.
All in all, great GUI enhancement and speed up.
Now cons.
All the changes to me seem superficial, apart from the rocket speed startup it seems the rest of the changes are superficual, the core of it seems the same Windows 7/xp as ususal.
I was doing my VAT return and have tonnes of pdf invoices to work with. It was quite frustrating to find that MS hasn't done a single thing to fix common teething problems in windows explorer. The thumbnails/preview seems to write protect a file so if you want to move/delete a file Windows explorer won't let you saying that thew file is being use by another process. What process you ask? it doesn't say. So by process of elimination you close out each of your programmes and the file still won't delete. You finally deduce it mask my the preview cache so yu disable file preview and it finally deletes.
I mean, come on. This is a boring, rudimentry feature in windows. Haven't any of MS devs come across this?
I am annoying mainly that WIndows hasn't done much to allow for easier file mnagement. Being a pretty heavy user I tend to have layers and layers of folders often working 3-4 folders deep.
I which windows explorer was more intuitive and predict what folders I might need access to, folder management is the same as it was in XP.
I have SSD on all my drives, and at this day in age, you really must have an SSD.
Boot times = amazing, for me it takes 20 seconds to get to a windows desktop from cold boot.
The new task view is nothing short of amazing, the ability to switch desktop will be great for users who need to multi-task and have just 1 monitor. I have 2 monitors so the featue isn't as useful for me.
All in all, great GUI enhancement and speed up.
Now cons.
All the changes to me seem superficial, apart from the rocket speed startup it seems the rest of the changes are superficual, the core of it seems the same Windows 7/xp as ususal.
I was doing my VAT return and have tonnes of pdf invoices to work with. It was quite frustrating to find that MS hasn't done a single thing to fix common teething problems in windows explorer. The thumbnails/preview seems to write protect a file so if you want to move/delete a file Windows explorer won't let you saying that thew file is being use by another process. What process you ask? it doesn't say. So by process of elimination you close out each of your programmes and the file still won't delete. You finally deduce it mask my the preview cache so yu disable file preview and it finally deletes.
I mean, come on. This is a boring, rudimentry feature in windows. Haven't any of MS devs come across this?
I am annoying mainly that WIndows hasn't done much to allow for easier file mnagement. Being a pretty heavy user I tend to have layers and layers of folders often working 3-4 folders deep.
I which windows explorer was more intuitive and predict what folders I might need access to, folder management is the same as it was in XP.
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Aside from the fact Windows 10 is still basically mostly Windows 7 underneath (as are Vista, 8 and 8.1 which are all NT6) and if you genuinely believe that there is no change in file management since Windows XP (which was atrocious) then you have a very short memory indeed.
Thumbnails and previews do not write protect the file and the behaviour you describe is certainly not normal, it sounds like either there's something wrong with your Windows install or you have a shell or explorer plugin which is holding open file handles when it shouldn't be.
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Hi LondonTiger
I don't think you've got the right W10 version if you think everything in it is "superficial" - it's quite a masterwork compared to the mess that was Windows 8
As for your issue. You are confused to the actual changes in W10 over other versions. You are probably using the inbuilt PDF reader app and this is locking your files as it reads the data in them to index.
This isn't very good compared to Foxit or Adobe PDF reader. You should install either program and set it as the default PDF app.
It may also be worth your while heading over to ninite.com and installing the essential apps there. This will help you get more out of your Windows 10.
Windows Explorer never was mean't to be a comprehensive tool like total commander. Suggest you try it instead0 -
Just tried it on Windows 10 Explorer and having PDF file in the preview pane doesn't block deleting them. Maybe if you have an intrusive AV system installed, that'll lock a file?0
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The latest update to Windows 10....this week....has totally ruined the usability of my computer.
1.Boot time has gone from under a minute to maybe 2 or 3....I haven't actually timed it but it's sits there for ages loading.
2.Programs don't always load.I have to restart the pc.
3.When I awaken the pc after putting it to sleep I used to just press the space bar but now it brings up a sign in screen.
I wish they'd stop messing.0 -
1.Boot time has gone from under a minute to maybe 2 or 3....I haven't actually timed it but it's sits there for ages loading.
2.Programs don't always load.I have to restart the pc.
3.When I awaken the pc after putting it to sleep I used to just press the space bar but now it brings up a sign in screen.
Not perhaps the fault of the upgrade but a problem with your computer?
1. My boot time unchanged
2. No problem with programs starting
3. If I press the spacebar it starts up unless a windows update has forced a restart.0 -
londonTiger wrote: »
I have SSD on all my drives, and at this day in age, you really must have an SSD.
Boot times = amazing, for me it takes 20 seconds to get to a windows desktop from cold boot.
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Why?
Windows 10 -- no ssd -- 17 seconds boot time.0 -
Not perhaps the fault of the upgrade but a problem with your computer?
1. My boot time unchanged
2. No problem with programs starting
3. If I press the spacebar it starts up unless a windows update has forced a restart.
All the problems occurred immediately after being the update and still persist.There's been another update since too0 -
Windows 10 -- no ssd -- 17 seconds boot time.
IMO an SSD is currently the most cost effective upgrade you can make. On my desktop machines I've installed comparatively small SSDs as the main Windows drive and used the old mechanical drive for mass storage. On my laptop I've just made do with a smallish SSD.0 -
Few people are that worried about boot time unless they have really old machines. Mine takes around 30 - 35 seconds from cold to desktop with W10, no SSD.
If it took another 30 seconds it would be fast enough to be honest. I turn it on once a day from cold, sometimes less if I've left it on overnight doing something. Nothing could be that urgent that I would gain from it being faster.
That said, I do agree that SSD is a great upgrade, especially now the sizes are increasing and prices are beginning to hit sensible territory.Drinking Rum before 10am makes you
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It's not the boot up or shutdown that is of concern, it's the bit in the middle.
The more you throw updates at an existing install the more likely it is to become unstable and these come thick and fast in W10 as they attempt to morph it.
I'd give W10 a swerve as a production grade OS until post Redstone (effectively W10 SP2) my advice to others would be to do the same unless you are prepared to accept breakage and know how to fix it.That said, I do agree that SSD is a great upgrade, especially now the sizes are increasing and prices are beginning to hit sensible territory.
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picked up a couple of 500GB Sammy EVO 850s from Amazon on a lightening deal for £90 each, I'd expect next year to start seeing 500GB drop below £100 on a regular basis.Science isn't exact, it's only confidence within limits.0
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