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Nightime Parking Ticket ; IPC

My car had a windscreen ticket (PCN) from an IPC registered company (NPS - Northern Parking Services)
The car was parked in a halfords car park, 8pm at night.
There was no easily visible signage although in daylight, you can see where they have sneakily put a sign saying the car park is controlled by them (on the entry wall, facing AWAY from the driver).
The signage suggests the driver entered a contract with the company by parking there & has a £100 charge..or £60 if paid in 14 days.
I have read a lot of the forum info & it suggested an IPC company is more complex for appeals, so I'd appreciate any assistance.
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  • Guys_Dad
    Guys_Dad Posts: 11,025 Forumite
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    You can only win this appeal at the IAS Kangaroo court if you have decent photos of the signs showing they failed to comply with the IPC CoP.

    Take some and put them up here, showing where they are in relation to the entrance. Take some in the dark too.
  • Pic 1 is the entrance. The notice is on the bottom wall ; facing away
    The sign adjacent to the words "Servcei, Repair" facing into the car park is their T&C sign
    Pic 2 is the sign thats on the low wall

    I am amazed a company like Halfords allows this. It is purely a money making scheme.. if they wanted people to not park there; install a gate !
    I am considering contacting Halfords about it but unsure whether anyone in the local branch would care/know anything about the deal with NPS.
  • It wont let me upload pics !
  • pappa_golf
    pappa_golf Posts: 8,895 Forumite
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    upload to tinipics etc and link them by changing the http:// to hxxp://
    Save a Rachael

    buy a share in crapita
  • Sorry, these are better.
    [IMG]hxxp://tinypic.com/r/3090u3n/9[/IMG]
    [IMG]hxxp://tinypic.com/r/4qrfpf/9[/IMG]
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 44,537 Forumite
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    Any more signs? Ones with details of the conditions of parking?

    Definitely go into Halfords, speak to the manager, not the till yoof, and demand he gets this ticket cancelled. Do it politely, but make sure it can be overheard by other customers.

    If you've previously shopped at Halfords, and you've got receipts or cc/bank statements, take them along as your proof of previous patronage.

    I'd also ask that if the store is closed what objection could there be to parking? Ask why barriers aren't installed if parking after hours is such a great problem to them? Tell them that as signs aren't illuminated then this is nothing but a honey trap, and Halfords are party to that trapping of motorists. Not something a motorist shop should be proud of.

    Final twist of the knife - tell them that this is more than likely going to court and you want the name of the Halford's employee who you can call to appear as a witness. In the absence of any other name, you will call the manager you're speaking with to appear. Ask him for dates from Jan to June 2016 when he's not available so you can ensure that a date is selected when he will appear in court. Ask for contact details. (Note - some of this is bluff, but it will put him into a bit of a corner to your advantage if he doesn't know the ropes on this).

    You could also use social media (FaceBook/Twtter) to add pressure and dissuade other potential customers from shopping at that store for fear of aggro and hassle from the PPC. Share the love!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Sign that identifies their "contract
    hxxp://tinypic.com/r/16as9dw/9
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 44,537 Forumite
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    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=16as9dw&s=9#.Vma57XrfWrU

    Looking at that sign it states 'Parking only for Permit Holders or Vehicles Pre-Authorised by NPS'. How do Halfords customers comply with that criterion (rhetorical question)?

    Are there any other retailers/outlets sharing the car park?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Sign that identifies their "contract
    http://tinypic.com/r/16as9dw/9
    That's not a contract. You are not being given an offer to park (or license to park, or call it what you will). As you are not a permit holder, you are specifically barred from parking. That makes it a trespass, and not a contractural breach, and only the landowner can pursue you for damages for that trespass (which will be maximum £1).
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