Can I apply for my road to become a permit only road?

bowlhead99

londonTiger wrote: »

I'm a business driver, I do deliveries, client meetups in random parts of the country and work from home. I only drive when it's an absolute necessity.

Due to the quality of the public transport for London commuting, it is perhaps only a "necessity" for the people who only drive on weekends, to drive at weekends. It would however be impractical for them to buy a new car when they get back from work on Fridays and sell it again on Sunday evening. And they probably don't want the hassle and expense to store their car away from where they live, same as you.

As you work from home and want to be able to park your vehicle at it - if parking is a problem despite the existing permit scheme then perhaps you should reconsider where it is that you site your home? I moved away from Zone 1 and am still happy overall with my life ; everything is a tradeoff.

George_Michael

GingerBob wrote: »

I'm writing a book at the moment: "The World's Most Arrogant Posts on Forums, Written by Bumptious Gits". Would you mind if I included this one?

Why do you consider that post to be arrogant?
When considering buying what will probably be one of the most expensive purchases of your life, surely doing a little bit of research about the local facilities before signing on the dotted line isn't too much to expect is it?

bowlhead99

NBLondon wrote: »

The council polled us about extending the parking zone and has decided to trial it next year - based on 53% voting in favour (of a 32% response). To my mind, that means the majority of residents were happy with the status quo and a minority (possibly those who do have driveways) have pushed through something that will cost most of us more money for little improvement.

If the residents were happy about the status quo and would have been unhappy with the extension they would have / should have voted no to the extension. Going off the statistics alone, it strikes me that the majority of residents were indifferent about the proposals and out of the ones that cared, most would prefer the restrictions to be extended. So, that's what happened. A 'vocal minority' can always upset the status quo if nobody thinks the status quo is worth defending.

The main cause of your not being able to park right where it would be most convenient for you, is that there is a financial incentive for someone to go to the hassle of parking their extra vehicles on your street, rather than paying to keep them in their own street. If they also have to pay to use your street too, that incentive goes away. Meanwhile other casual parkers / commuters / visitors are not going to be able to leave their car on your street all day, which doesn't bother you (because you're out at work and already claimed a spot at the weekend) but you could see how it would bother others.

AdrianC

bowlhead99 wrote: »

NBLondon wrote:

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The council polled us about extending the parking zone and has decided to trial it next year - based on 53% voting in favour (of a 32% response). To my mind, that means the majority of residents were happy with the status quo and a minority (possibly those who do have driveways) have pushed through something that will cost most of us more money for little improvement.

If the residents were happy about the status quo and would have been unhappy with the extension they would have / should have voted no to the extension. Going off the statistics alone, it strikes me that the majority of residents were indifferent about the proposals and out of the ones that cared, most would prefer the restrictions to be extended. So, that's what happened. A 'vocal minority' can always upset the status quo if nobody thinks the status quo is worth defending.

Quite.

32% response, 47% against means that just 15% were concerned enough about it to actually vote against. 85% were not even sufficiently against it to put a cross in a box and shove a piece of paper in an envelope.

dannyrst

I like the people who put no parking signs in their window because they expect to be able to park outside their house.

bowlhead99

dannyrst wrote: »

I like the people who put no parking signs in their window

Hmm, OK, I won't park in their window then.

NBLondon

AdrianC wrote: »

Quite.

32% response, 47% against means that just 15% were concerned enough about it to actually vote against. 85% were not even sufficiently against it to put a cross in a box and shove a piece of paper in an envelope.

Which is why so many people chunter about general elections.... an awful lot of people don't care/ don't think or possibly don't read anything the council sends them unless it's got Final Demand written across the top...


What the statistics don't tell you is that there wasn't a problem before the nearby streets went residents only and it was this vocal minority who lobbied the council to extend the scheme (I know - I went to the community meetings!). The reason those first streets wanted parking restrictions is that they contain a popular park and people from further afield used to drive there; unload kids, dogs and bikes from the back and leave their car outside someone else's house. So each extension of the parking restrictions just pushes the problem into another street and makes more money for the council.


WhenI lived Oop North - I paid £5 a year for a parking permit. In Sarf London, it's going to be £125. Now I know land is more expensive here but I don't think they pay wardens 25 times the salary!

forgotmyname

I always think its funny when someone thinks the bit of road outside their property is theirs alone and although i see the problem that you may come home with shopping and not be able to park close by.

But i then have to wonder where they park when they go out. Do they always use pay and display carparks and never park on the road anywhere else?

When i got my 1st car i used to park in the grove opposite my parents because it was close to the corner so safer. I knew everyone in the grove and grew up with their children.
Someone new moved in and objected to me parking there and even make threats, i just replied back how his tyres look expensive to replace.

He only glared at me when parking there after that. He was free to park outside my parents, I dont think he would have parked there for long though, Dad had several vans crashed into over the years.

AdrianC

NBLondon wrote: »

Which is why so many people chunter about general elections.... an awful lot of people don't care/ don't think or possibly don't read anything the council sends them unless it's got Final Demand written across the top...

OK, so the anti-restriction campaigners couldn't be bothered to do any canvassing, either.

What the statistics don't tell you is that there wasn't a problem before the nearby streets went residents only

For you, maybe.

Marvel1

wba31 wrote: »

I cant believe that when you have asked a simple question about it being possible, people are taking swipes at you for living there! These posters are probably people who park in a side street for the train and return home to a nice big drive to park on, or never have to push a pushchair down the road because the pavement is blocked.

I used to live in a terraced house just outside the ringroad around walsall, and mon-fri was chaos with people parking for free in the street. From start to finish it took about 18 months for permits to be brought in, from residents doing questionnaires, photo evidence being sent to our counsellor, public meetings held by the council, then the line painting and implementation. The permits were £20 a year i think, however we moved out on the Saturday as they came into force on the Monday.
It was still a bit contentious though as the letter i received from the council said i could have 1 for each car in the house (to a maximum of 3 - and they had to have a reg printed on them) and non for visitors, but they could park for a max of 2 hours. one house in the street was a couple, and their daughter and her partner lived there. They each had a car so they would have suffered. Some residents were told they were allowed visitors permits... as i said, luckily we got out before it came in so avoided the issues that came afterwards.

I'd start with speaking to neighbours, some may have already started the ball rolling, some may agree to support if nothing is done. Those that drive to work and get back after the street clears may not be willing to pay for a permit they will not gain from

My biggest pet hate is drivers parking on pavements blocking prams etc and should be reported.

Now I'd they weren't parking on pavement, then you don't have an automatic right to park outside your house, if the vehicles there are taxed, insured they can park there.

I am concerned how the parking was not noticed during viewing but I'm guessing this was done during evenings and weekends when not busy, which shows you need visit street different times of the day.

OP: Report those who block the pavement for prams, take photos.