Can I apply for my road to become a permit only road?

bowlhead99

londonTiger wrote: »

i live in London and our parking permit is £120 a year, I wish it was more. There are far to many social & domestic drivers on the road - owning cars just because they can. They're just left on the road - hardly driven apart from weekends.

If residents permits were more expensive it would deter those people. For the last 2 weeks I have barely been able to park on my street because there are so many cars owned be residents.

Just because they have been able to find a solution to getting to work/school/shops etc etc without using a car much during the week, and you have not, doesn't mean that THEY should be deterred from being able to use a car the other two days.

It seems like you are every bit as guilty of 'owning a car just because you can', as they are.

If someone is complaining of traffic they are sitting in, or a car parking problem they are experiencing - their own car is part of the problem, even though they believe they are whiter than white and not at fault for living in a free world.

wba31

I cant believe that when you have asked a simple question about it being possible, people are taking swipes at you for living there! These posters are probably people who park in a side street for the train and return home to a nice big drive to park on, or never have to push a pushchair down the road because the pavement is blocked.

I used to live in a terraced house just outside the ringroad around walsall, and mon-fri was chaos with people parking for free in the street. From start to finish it took about 18 months for permits to be brought in, from residents doing questionnaires, photo evidence being sent to our counsellor, public meetings held by the council, then the line painting and implementation. The permits were £20 a year i think, however we moved out on the Saturday as they came into force on the Monday.
It was still a bit contentious though as the letter i received from the council said i could have 1 for each car in the house (to a maximum of 3 - and they had to have a reg printed on them) and non for visitors, but they could park for a max of 2 hours. one house in the street was a couple, and their daughter and her partner lived there. They each had a car so they would have suffered. Some residents were told they were allowed visitors permits... as i said, luckily we got out before it came in so avoided the issues that came afterwards.

I'd start with speaking to neighbours, some may have already started the ball rolling, some may agree to support if nothing is done. Those that drive to work and get back after the street clears may not be willing to pay for a permit they will not gain from

usefulmale

londonTiger wrote: »

i live in London and our parking permit is £120 a year, I wish it was more. There are far to many social & domestic drivers on the road - owning cars just because they can. They're just left on the road - hardly driven apart from weekends.

If residents permits were more expensive it would deter those people. For the last 2 weeks I have barely been able to park on my street because there are so many cars owned be residents.

Talk about ironic. Moaning about not being able to park your car because of other residents cars and bleating about people owning cars just because they can. Why not get rid of yours? Problem solved and £120 saved to boot.

Norman_Castle

londonTiger wrote: »

For the last 2 weeks I have barely been able to park on my street because there are so many cars owned be residents.

Do you understand "residents" includes you. :rotfl:.

Norman_Castle

TugaGirl wrote: »

Hi there,
It is the closest road to the train station with no parking restrictions.

As the problem is recognised it may be easier to get the parking restricted area extended. Check the conditions of the restricted roads before applying. Obstructing the pavement is a separate issue which should be dealt with by the council.

AdrianC

We used to live just up the road from a station. When we moved in, it was not a great surprise to find that people were using it as a free alternative to the station car park... Eminently foreseeable, in fact.

After a few years, the council introduced resident parking restrictions - not onerous, just one hour in the middle of the working day. The permits started off cheap, but rose in price fairly rapidly. Many neighbours complained bitterly about the restriction, and quite a few got parking tickets over the years.

The road next to us fought tooth-and-nail AGAINST having the restrictions, and won. You may well find that happened in the road you've now moved into.

Of course, it's no great surprise what happened to the parking in that street... Last I was there, they still hadn't introduced restrictions there. Whether the residents would agree now or not, I won't guess.

NBLondon

Living in a road between 2 schools; I don't expect to be able to park outside my house anywhere between 0800 and 1730 as the teachers want somewhere to park. Since I commute by train most weekdays - my car is one of those that annoys LondonTiger by often not moving all week. But I still intend to keep it for the times when I do use it (and enjoy it).


But actually - the biggest cause of not being able to park directly outside is the parking restrictions in neighbouring streets. The permits triple in price for a second vehicle in the household so many people only buy one for the main vehicle and park the second round the corner where I live. In a few cases, the second vehicle is a large van which would be even more expensive (business permit). In an area where one car per adult is not uncommon but Victorian/Edwardian terraces don't usually have driveways, there will always be more demand for spaces than supply.


The council polled us about extending the parking zone and has decided to trial it next year - based on 53% voting in favour (of a 32% response). To my mind, that means the majority of residents were happy with the status quo and a minority (possibly those who do have driveways) have pushed through something that will cost most of us more money for little improvement. The council of course is happy to take the dosh and will claim they are helping the environment by trying to price second cars out of existence and encouraging people to cycle instead.

londonTiger

bowlhead99 wrote: »

Just because they have been able to find a solution to getting to work/school/shops etc etc without using a car much during the week, and you have not, doesn't mean that THEY should be deterred from being able to use a car the other two days.

It seems like you are every bit as guilty of 'owning a car just because you can', as they are.

If someone is complaining of traffic they are sitting in, or a car parking problem they are experiencing - their own car is part of the problem, even though they believe they are whiter than white and not at fault for living in a free world.

I'm a business driver, I do deliveries, client meetups in random parts of the country and work from home. I only drive when it's an absolute necessity.

Public transport is so good in London that there really isn't any need to drive. I see people drive .5 mile to pick up their kids from primary school at 3:30 and complete block the roads.

For a stay at home mum that .5 mile journey can be 10-15 minutes, it doesn't matter they have all the time in the world. But for business travels every residential area becomes bumper to bumper traffic from 3:10 to 3:50.

George_Michael

NBLondon wrote: »

The council polled us about extending the parking zone and has decided to trial it next year - based on 53% voting in favour (of a 32% response). To my mind, that means the majority of residents were happy with the status quo and a minority (possibly those who do have driveways) have pushed through something that will cost most of us more money for little improvement.

The minority didn't push anything through.
They got the system changed by getting off their ar5es and participating in the poll.
If more of the majority who were happy with the old setup didn't just sit back and ignore what was happening then it wouldn't have been voted through.

GingerBob_3

konark wrote: »

So you bought a house near to a commuter train station and are surprised that cars park near your house. Didn't you anticpate this , or see them when you viewed. You did view the house did you, yes the vendor said to come round Sunday afternoon , nice and quiet wasn't it?

It's called 'due diligence' don't buy a house next to the gasworks then complain about the smell!

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