"Non-transferable"

Elsewhere

Car parks in a local town have recently installed ticket machines which require you to enter your registration number so that you can't pass the ticket on.

Why is this "non-transferable" legal? I can't see any basis. If I buy a loaf of bread the supermarket can't forbid me from eating half and giving half to someone else. So why can't I buy an hour's parking, use half an hour and give the rest away?

Is there a precident in law to say I can't? It's not as if the car park owner has vetted me specially to see if they are prepared to enter into a contract with only me, unlike for instance a landlord or employer.

Has this ever been tested in court?

charlie-chan

Elsewhere wrote: »

Car parks in a local town have recently installed ticket machines which require you to enter your registration number so that you can't pass the ticket on.

Why is this "non-transferable" legal? I can't see any basis. If I buy a loaf of bread the supermarket can't forbid me from eating half and giving half to someone else. So why can't I buy an hour's parking, use half an hour and give the rest away?

Is there a precident in law to say I can't? It's not as if the car park owner has vetted me specially to see if they are prepared to enter into a contract with only me, unlike for instance a landlord or employer.

Has this ever been tested in court?

I think it might be the fact that they aren't making money from the drivers who share tickets :cool:

enfield_freddy

its all down to the ANPR system , that clocks YOUR number plate entering , and then leaving the site, it checks this against the number entered on the keypad


no keypad entry , = ANPR saying that the vehicle has not been registerd as a legitimate user and the PPC will issue a ticket

Edwood_Woodwood

Elsewhere wrote: »

Car parks in a local town have recently installed ticket machines which require you to enter your registration number so that you can't pass the ticket on.

Why is this "non-transferable" legal? I can't see any basis. If I buy a loaf of bread the supermarket can't forbid me from eating half and giving half to someone else. So why can't I buy an hour's parking, use half an hour and give the rest away?

Is there a precident in law to say I can't? It's not as if the car park owner has vetted me specially to see if they are prepared to enter into a contract with only me, unlike for instance a landlord or employer.

Has this ever been tested in court?

It's the law of contract.

One of the terms will be that tickets are not transferable, simple as that.

For a similar example, you may buy a ticket for a rock event where the ticket purchased is only for you, such as for Glastonbury.

You may decide to leave halfway through the weekend and give the ticket to somebody outside the event.

They then cannot use the ticket as it was specific to you, to which you would have agreed upon purchase.

You agreed the contractual terms.

enfield_freddy

the law of contract might be apt , but how can a "car" or even a car registration number enter into a contract?




<climbs off fence>

pendragon_arther

I agree that it's a silly law. I used to leave my ticket with unused time near the paying machine for the next punter thus saving them some of the extortionate cost of another ticket. I also think these thieving car parks should be forced to give change if you haven't got the right change.

summerlady_2

It's not a law in itself, but a way of using the law to make a profit from empty space.


The car park operators hope then to be able to rent out that space for the time you have already paid for - which at busy times they can often do.


The only way to stop it is to get people to boycott the car park.


I pay for less time, rather than overestimate, and leave when my time is up. The shops suffer, but the parking people don't.


It's simply profiteering.

Edwood_Woodwood

enfield_freddy wrote: »

the law of contract might be apt , but how can a "car" or even a car registration number enter into a contract?

Because you, as the person, enters into the contract.

If you use this car park then it is obviously you who decides to, you have control & responsibility for said car.

Eg, If you cross over a fee paying bridge, like the Severn Crossing, then it is you who has decided to do so and pay the fee.

Or, if you decide to go with a particular insurer, then you have decided to enter yourself (your car) into that contract.

JJ_Egan

I used to use a small Pay and Display car park .
After they put in such machines i contacted the council to ask why .
Reply was about 30% of the tickets are passed to other users defrauding the council and potentially raising the prices for legitimate users .
Personally i rarely shop where i have to pay car park charges

System

The few car parks I use just require the numbers of the reg. No letters on the keypad.

So if you find a driver with the same reg - such as me, 07, you can hand it to them.

If the car park has, 200 spaces, a good ten will have the same reg - if you have the post 2001 reg

enfield_freddy

if they only require a few numbers , then they are not ANPR controlled car parks , and if what you say is true (couple of numbers) , how can they tell if you have transferred the ticket to a new user