Letter from sky - GoldenEye claim I file shared!

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  • ashleypride
    ashleypride Posts: 657 Forumite
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    edited 27 March 2016 at 11:59AM
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    glennstar wrote: »
    It is not possible to spoof address as IP routing tables stop this from happening.

    Somewhat oftopic but sadly, this is wrong. Spoofing a IP address is possible, DDOS attacks such as DNS amplification or Smurf all rely on it.
    glennstar wrote: »
    If GE say the traffic came from that IP address and they have technical evidence to back that up AND the ISP confirms the address was allocated to you,

    In isolation, without GE having access to the router logs between src to dst it is impossible for GE to say that the incoming traffic was not spoofed.

    But, IP routing would only ensure that the traffic from the torrent goes to the correct non-spoofed IP address. If a TCP connection had been performed and the 3 way handshake completed, if would confirm the IP address was not spoofed.
  • kwikbreaks
    kwikbreaks Posts: 9,187 Forumite
    edited 27 March 2016 at 11:32AM
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    Swipe wrote: »
    What film did you download to get this letter?
    I think the general class has already been covered but not the titles.
    This pdf - http://goldeneyeint.com/Agree%20BD.pdf - suggests they have bought up some copyrights from Ben Dover Productions whose filmography on IMDB - http://www.imdb.com/company/co0104790/ may give you some hints.

    This pdf gives a full list of the production companies should you need to research this a bit more - http://goldeneyeint.com/Court%20Order.pdf

    I'm guessing they'll go for other ISPs later.

    ===

    It looks like the witness statements linked to from http://goldeneyeint.com/sky.jsp

    give lists of the titles. There don't seem to be any James Bond movies listed.
  • glennstar
    glennstar Posts: 282 Forumite
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    ashleypride,
    For the purposes of this discussion, i.e. content upload/down via torrent or similar it is not possible to spoof a public IP address.
    The views expressed here are my own. I am not a Solicitor nor am I affiliated with any of the parties I mention. If you disagree with any of my comments please say in whatever way feels most natural to you. No one self improves in a bubble!
  • kwikbreaks
    kwikbreaks Posts: 9,187 Forumite
    edited 27 March 2016 at 1:09PM
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    I believe what has happened in the past is that fake IPs have been "injected" into the torrent swarm. The fakes never get any data but anybody monitoring who they believe they are transmitting to will see those fake addresses. That's just my translation of what I think was being done based on things I read. The idea was to cast doubt on any evidence gathered by monitoring IPs in torrent swarms.

    https://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-tricks-anti-pirates-with-fake-peers-081020/

    I'm not convinced that that any IP could be said to be participating in file sharing unless data forming part of the copyright material was actually received from that IP.
  • pmduk
    pmduk Posts: 10,655 Forumite
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    There's an interesting blog entry here with a link to solicitor offering representation for £90
  • glennstar
    glennstar Posts: 282 Forumite
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    pmduk,
    I wouldn't pay them £90 either. They look as big a bunch of crooks as the Beckers.
    The views expressed here are my own. I am not a Solicitor nor am I affiliated with any of the parties I mention. If you disagree with any of my comments please say in whatever way feels most natural to you. No one self improves in a bubble!
  • paulfoel
    paulfoel Posts: 5,819 Forumite
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    glennstar wrote: »
    pmduk,
    I wouldn't pay them £90 either. They look as big a bunch of crooks as the Beckers.

    Yep. Crooks as well. They get £90 for defending something that is as easy as falling off a log.

    Jumping on the cash bandwagon. If you get a letter just send back the standard denail letter. 999/1000 you wont hear anything else.
    Cymru am Byth !!! :j:j:j
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