Going back to manual from automatic?

takman

150940 wrote: »

Yeah, you just sit blinding people at traffic lights once it's dark.

Having the break lights on (especially with the middle one on) will help notify cars that you are stopped if they are approaching fast from behind so this helps to prevent accidents.

But I think the only people who get annoyed at brake lights are the ones who can't hold a car on the clutch themselves

150940

takman wrote: »

Having the break lights on (especially with the middle one on) will help notify cars that you are stopped if they are approaching fast from behind so this helps to prevent accidents.

But I think the only people who get annoyed at brake lights are the ones who can't hold a car on the clutch themselves

And if your are hit from behind without the handbrake on where are you going?

If find it laughable, you claim bad habits make you a better driver.

takman

150940 wrote: »

And if your are hit from behind without the handbrake on where are you going?

If find it laughable, you claim bad habits make you a better driver.

So the handbrake which only operates the two rear calipers is better than the footbrake which operates all four?????.

RichardD1970

I had a manual courtesy car the other day after driving an auto for the past 3 years.

Never again!

Rush hour, stop start traffic in a manual is horrible.

Oh, and I hold on the foot brake (as do most people I see nowadays) and rarely use the handbrake, which is automatic and the switch to manually activate it is in an awkward position to reach.

If you find brake lights uncomfortably dazzling, I would suggest visiting your optician.

prowla

takman wrote: »

So the handbrake which only operates the two rear calipers is better than the footbrake which operates all four?????.

If you are hit, your foot will come off the brake.

RichardD1970

takman wrote: »

So the handbrake which only operates the two rear calipers is better than the footbrake which operates all four?????.

That's if its got rear discs and not drums, or worse a Yaris which apparently have no rear breaks at all.

prowla

RichardD1970 wrote: »

If you find brake lights uncomfortably dazzling, I would suggest visiting your optician.

An alternative suggestion might be that you read the highway code...

In stationary queues of traffic, drivers should apply the parking brake and, once the following traffic has stopped, take their foot off the footbrake to deactivate the vehicle brake lights. This will minimise glare to road users behind until the traffic moves again.

Gloomendoom

There is no way I am relying on the parking brake to keep my auto stationary in a traffic queue.

Of course, I could keep shifting into neutral every time I stop, but then the owner's manual says not to as it will cause premature wear to the gearbox.

RichardD1970

prowla wrote: »

An alternative suggestion might be that you read the highway code...

In stationary queues of traffic, drivers should apply the parking brake and, once the following traffic has stopped, take their foot off the footbrake to deactivate the vehicle brake lights. This will minimise glare to road users behind until the traffic moves again.

Should not must, so I will make my own decision as to when and where it is appropriate to use the parking break and will if traffic is likely to be stationary for any length of time.

Point still stands, if brake lights were that uncomfortable that it was an real issue and not just something else to moan then I would see an optician.

reeac

Seems to me that if brake lights are intended to be a warning then the need for that warning is over once you've stopped and, if you want to be cautious, the following car has also stopped. Like would you keep indicators flashing after you've completed a turn?