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DLA transition to PIP - evidence?

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  • GlasweJen
    GlasweJen Posts: 7,451 Forumite
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    Well I got my MR this morning and they've decided I'm not entitled to PIP since November 2015. The DM wrote that I've not sent any additional evidence in (well the decision was only made last week!) and that they're basing it on the phone call where I asked for the reconsideration which is fine except protocol is that I should get to speak to a DM.

    They don't appear to be considering anything in my letter though I'd be surprised if they saw it before reconsidering given the time it takes for them to do anything.

    So do I get my final DLA payment on 22nd March like the original letter said?

    Obviously going to appeal it but is it worthwhile complaining about the process so far?
  • 50Twuncle
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35793004
    Implies that the Care Component of PIP is going to be virtually impossible to claim in future - the government are clamping down on the easiest people to deal with - the disabled !!
  • 50Twuncle
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    GlasweJen wrote: »
    Well I got my MR this morning and they've decided I'm not entitled to PIP since November 2015. The DM wrote that I've not sent any additional evidence in (well the decision was only made last week!) and that they're basing it on the phone call where I asked for the reconsideration which is fine except protocol is that I should get to speak to a DM.

    They don't appear to be considering anything in my letter though I'd be surprised if they saw it before reconsidering given the time it takes for them to do anything.

    So do I get my final DLA payment on 22nd March like the original letter said?

    Obviously going to appeal it but is it worthwhile complaining about the process so far?
    YES It certainly is worth complaining about what they have put you through already - have you the support of your MP ?
  • nannytone_2
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    50Twuncle wrote: »
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35793004
    Implies that the Care Component of PIP is going to be virtually impossible to claim in future - the government are clamping down on the easiest people to deal with - the disabled !!

    youre scaring people in necessarily by saying the care component will be 'virtually impossible to claim'

    the changes cover dressing and toiling needs only ( I'm not saying the changes are right, but stating what they have actually changed)
    it is to do with using household items as 'aids', so chairs and beds etc.

    it has nothing to do with Jens case. as far as i can tell, her case wasn't even read before a decision was made
  • 50Twuncle
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    nannytone wrote: »
    youre scaring people in necessarily by saying the care component will be 'virtually impossible to claim'

    the changes cover dressing and toiling needs only ( I'm not saying the changes are right, but stating what they have actually changed)
    it is to do with using household items as 'aids', so chairs and beds etc.

    it has nothing to do with Jens case. as far as i can tell, her case wasn't even read before a decision was made
    Sorry - you are correct - but can the government be trusted not to take it further ?
  • nannytone_2
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    50Twuncle wrote: »
    Sorry - you are correct - but can the government be trusted not to take it further ?

    who knows.

    i am responding to your comment that due to the changes to PIP scoring, the care component will be 'virtually impossible to claim' which is clearly something you just made up.

    there are people that will read that and believe it to be true, and who may be caused unnecessary stress because of it.

    so instead of saying 'the government may do it in the future', you really should ensure that what you're posting is in fact, true
  • GlasweJen
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    My MP is as supportive as MPs can be, I think I'll draft a complaint and send it cc her as the DWP essentially lied to her about speaking to me and reconsidering the claim, plucking a date from fresh air to make it look good.
  • FBaby
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    What really confuses me is reading posters here either claiming for the first time or being re-assessed in the last 12 months or so, there seem to be a real disparity between MH claimants and those claiming on the basis of physical disability.

    I am amazed how some posters have managed to get Standard or even Enhanced daily living component and standard mobility when they started to suffer from anxiety/depression following a bad experience at work, yet others who suffers from obvious physical disabilities seem to see their eligibility revoked.

    It especially doesn't seem to make sense when reading the BBC article, it would seem that those changes due to take place are on the basis of claimants need requiring aids/devices because they've already got them, therefore linking PIP to a financial need rather than just a perceived need.

    I still think that until PIP/DLA is fully overall so that it focuses on actual financial need rather than perceived, the system will remain totally flawed. It is just totally wrong that one person who can evidence using their PIP monthly for care/devices etc... to help them should have to fight to receive it, whilst those who openly admit to using it to enhanced their lifestyle get asked no question about how they spend tax payers money.

    I really hope that one government will have the guts one day to reallocate PIP appropriately so that those who really need it get a lot more than they currently receive and others accept that their disability shouldn't be an open book to extra cash to enjoy luxuries they wouldn't be able to afford otherwise.
  • 50Twuncle
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    nannytone wrote: »
    Maybe European courts need to be involved ... if we stay in EEC ?
    That is truly appalling....
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