Providing proof of jobsearch, JSA.

Electrum

I hate it on UVM when you go to apply but it takes you to another website that they ask you to register for.

I dont want to regidter for all these other sites

elsien

One of my UJM keywords was "care" as that was my previous line of work. Because UJM is such a blunt instrument, it gave me every job advert that mentioned care in any context. Tiler and plumber was another good one, as anyone who's seen my DIY can testify.

Plus I tend to get the hump when people (aka job centre staff) lie to me about what I "have" to do. So, no UJM for me - they didn't like it, but that's their problem not mine. (Academic now, as I found work through another better site.)

Electrum, I'd suggest signing up for other sites is far more effective in the long run, as they have better search criteria and you waste less time ploughing through the UJM rubbish.

clickerty-click

I started out not using their little book but kept my own records I have now found it easier to comply with this, I get the feeling they are not able to cope very well with anyone who has a mind of their own. I have also been asked to take in my log on number next time I sign on, maybe it is another new initiative. I just wished that they actually spent time really trying to coach you into work instead of box ticking

skintpaul

print / save screenprints of each vacancy, and any 'application confirmed' page- email these to yourself, and offer to show if required.

pinpin

elsien wrote: »

I didn't give them access to UJM as I found it completely useless and there was no way I was going to give them the chance to sanction me for not applying for totally irrelevant jobs.

Exactly.
They're always looking to trick people into getting themselves sanctioned. You have to play a little smart.

When I was signing on a few years ago, I just took screenshots of my various applications and rejection emails from employers.
I gave the advisor a books worth of 'em!

red_devil

don't give them access. You can write your jobs in your booklet or on a piece of paper and ask them to copy it.

oneofmillions768

Don't give them access, they will only use it, as a means to sanction you.

For example, if you visit the Job Centre and let them login to your Universal Jobmatch account where they flag up the job, if you get home and the job is expired.....expect to be sanctioned.

The jobs which expire don't have a time stamp of expiry.

Don't tick the box giving them access, just take along a spreadsheet print out with Job Title/Job ID/Website where advertised/Date you applied/Company Name/Location of Job.

That should cover you, if they want to locate the job, they could look up the Job ID reference (some of them don't have one), but you have more than given them the required information..

There is plenty of references on the Freedom of Information request where it stipulates, that you don't have to provide access, take it along or better still ask them to provide documented proof that you need to :-)

Just because your unemployed, doesn't means you don't have any rights.

oneofmillions768

Electrum wrote: »

I hate it on UVM when you go to apply but it takes you to another website that they ask you to register for.

I dont want to regidter for all these other sites

Tell me about it:mad:

Once went to four different websites from that UJM, and as I like to do the password reminder for security, a !!!!!!! nightmare.

UJM is just a site full of scraped jobs from other sites

Many times you will see, 4-5 times the same job advertised by different companies/scammers.

Companies such as Strike Jobs/Jobs4.co.uk etc

At least the old Direct Gov seemed to have 'real' companies advertising, UJM is just one big mess.

Dole_Scrounger

Hi all.

Just signed on yesterday, and some things have changed.
I have been told that I have to attend a "fortnightly group session in the portal". They want me to record my day to day search activity in the Activity History section of my UJM account. When I go in to sign on, I am expected to login to my UJM account at the Job Centre.:mad:
I have not ticked the 2 boxes that give the DWP/JC+ the right to scrutinize my UJM activities, so how can they read any of my recorded Activity History anyway?:cool:
Perhaps when I/you Login on their system they can spy on our activity history, thus circumventing the rules. Perhaps they will use key-loggers and/or screen grabbers to see what we are doing.:o

Does anyone have any info on this please.;)

Flyonthewall

Dole_Scrounger wrote: »

Hi all.

Just signed on yesterday, and some things have changed.
I have been told that I have to attend a "fortnightly group session in the portal". They want me to record my day to day search activity in the Activity History section of my UJM account. When I go in to sign on, I am expected to login to my UJM account at the Job Centre.:mad:
I have not ticked the 2 boxes that give the DWP/JC+ the right to scrutinize my UJM activities, so how can they read any of my recorded Activity History anyway?:cool:
Perhaps when I/you Login on their system they can spy on our activity history, thus circumventing the rules. Perhaps they will use key-loggers and/or screen grabbers to see what we are doing.:o

Does anyone have any info on this please.;)

Refuse to sign in. State it is against the Data Protection Act and the servers used are not secure private own, therefore you will not be logging in on their computers, giving them the log in details or giving them access to your account.

They probably won't be happy but they can't force them. Just make sure you have proof on paper of what you've done, including screenprints.

Anything done on their computers can most likely be viewed by others within the company (i.e. the IT department and possibly managers). They're highly unlikely to use key-loggers or anything like that, partly because they've no need. The computers are networked and, as is usually the case with companies, it's possible to log what a computer does and take control of the computer if needed.