China ends 1 child policy

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

China has officially ended it's one child policy due to growing concerns over a rapidly worsening ageing population crisis and decades of unsustainably low birth rates.

They're far too late however.

China is in for a very tough few decades economically until they can get birth rates up and rebalance the population.

ViolaLass

I'm surprised they're not focusing on immigration, which could fix the problem more quickly.

Mistermeaner

The SNP & Corvbyn supporters could all relocate there - a bit of left leaning utopia with enterprising business outlook. Perfect!

CLAPTON

a falling population in china seems like good news

fewer polluting power stations needed, fewer cars needed, less likelihood of WW3 etc

what's not to like?

martinsurrey

CLAPTON wrote: »

less likelihood of WW3 etc

what's not to like?

an economic crisis is likely to increase the risk of this not reduce it, nothing distracts the people from the trouble on their door step like a good old fashioned war.

CLAPTON

martinsurrey wrote: »

an economic crisis is likely to increase the risk of this not reduce it, nothing distracts the people from the trouble on their door step like a good old fashioned war.

I see no reason for an economic crisis due to reducing requirements for scarce resources.

In general I would see less chance of significant wars if the world's population pressure was decreasing compared to population increasing.

Generali

Too little too late, I agree.

The next step is interesting. It's hard for a country of a billion to import enough people to earn to make up the shortfall of years of under population via the means of forced abortion and sterilisation.

So what to do? The UK has a simple solution, the Germans a slightly tougher one. I guess that China could take up a few tens of millions of displaced people. That's a few percent of their population. It might help a bit.

CLAPTON

Generali wrote: »

Too little too late, I agree.

The next step is interesting. It's hard for a country of a billion to import enough people to earn to make up the shortfall of years of under population via the means of forced abortion and sterilisation.

So what to do? The UK has a simple solution, the Germans a slightly tougher one. I guess that China could take up a few tens of millions of displaced people. That's a few percent of their population. It might help a bit.

in what way is it too little to late?

does china have a massive labour shortage?

martinsurrey

CLAPTON wrote: »

I see no reason for an economic crisis due to reducing requirements for scarce resources.

In general I would see less chance of significant wars if the world's population pressure was decreasing compared to population increasing.

An aging population needs more resources from less active people. A government (especially one with effective control of the media, like China) can deflect that into violent nationalism, blaming "those <insert nation/race>" for the economic troubles.

CLAPTON

martinsurrey wrote: »

An aging population needs more resources from less active people. A government (especially one with effective control of the media, like China) can deflect that into violent nationalism, blaming "those <insert nation/race>" for the economic troubles.

why would a country with too few young people want to send them out to fight a major war?

are you assuming that forced slavery would be their war aim or would you be aiming to forceably export your old people to the conquered nations?

HappyMJ

CLAPTON wrote: »

in what way is it too little to late?

does china have a massive labour shortage?

The 4-2-1 problem.

2 couples each have one child those 2 children get together and create one child. You now have one adult child looking after 2 parents and 4 what would now be elderly grandparents. Not many people have enough resources to do that successfully so the one child will need outside labour but everyone else in the economy has the same problem.

It may not be too late. They can encourage immigration. They can encourage their own citizens currently residing abroad to return home.