Do I reply to UKPC Final Reminder?

Coupon-mad

Charlotterw wrote: »

Hi, newbie here. I received a UKCP ticket on my car yesterday. I recently started working at a business that has a UKCP car park, gave the company my reg number and have been fine for a couple of weeks. Unfortunately yesterday there were no spaces left in this car park so went and parked in a "loading area" (this is not marked as such) where other staff members park and where the wheelie bins live. I put a little note in the windscreen saying where I worked and figured if they ran a search on my number plate they would see I do in fact work there. Have a ticket, pay within 14 days to get it reduced etc etc however on closer inspection they have printed my reg number wrong, should be 04 and they've put 05. Where do I stand on this? I presume they can still find me from pictures however their paper work will have an incorrect reg number. Any advice would be great

UKPC can't get your name and address for a current new windscreen ticket so work out for yourself why we will tell you (advice appliable to October 2015) NOT to appeal, if this is UKPC.

Also you say they have the reg number wrong so that detail alone means we tell you NOT TO APPEAL. DO NOT RING OR WRITE TO THEM!

Sit tight and keep the PCN (do not throw it away in case they end up somehow getting your data if this is UKCPS or someone, then you would still have the PCN to prove the differnece in the VRN).

However, there are companies with similar acronyms so check who yours is from and read the NEWBIES THREAD. One click and you are there - use the fORUM JUMP on the right of this page and click 'GO' then read the thread you should have read.

PLEASE DO NOT REPLY HERE - THIS IS NOT YOUR THREAD.

beamerguy

There is only ONE unbiased appeal system operated by the government called The Traffic Penalty Tribunal

THEY SAY:-
The Traffic Penalty Tribunal comprises individually appointed independent adjudicators and a small team of administrative staff who work on their behalf. http://www.trafficpenaltytribunal.gov.uk/
NOTE: This service is not applicable with Private Parking Companies

Unlike Private Parking companies whose appeals service is pretty well guaranteed to fail. This includes POPLA, who feed off the PPC's so an appeal to succeed is highly unlikely. It is at this point that consumers end up paying and that is just want the PPC's want.

DO NOT APPEAL, instead, reject the invoice from the PPC stating it is an unfair charge and ask for a breakdown of the charge.
PPC's will not give you that information as doubtful they will know themselves, as it is a "pie in sky" amount.
We are all in our right to query any charge and the onus is on the PPC to give a breakdown.

Failure to do so by the PPC opens them up in a court as you cannot be expected to pay an amount which is not fully explained to you and that you understand. Other such questions such as:- how much do they pay the landowner, how much they pay the supermarket etc etc. If they have not given you a cost breakdown, what makes them think they are correct. Every bill or charge must show a breakdown.

Would you accept your gas bill if it just showed an amount and not how the bill was made up, of course not. Would you pay for a garage bill if there was no breakdown of costs, of course not.

We are not alone in our quest to clean up the filthy PPC business, it is a rip off off. However in a recent case between ParkingEye v Beavis, he lost in County Court to which it was sent to an appeals court who ruled that such charges are fair ???
Beavis like most of us do not and will not accept this so Mr Beavis has taken this to the Supreme Court and the case will be heard on the 4th November 2015 as shown on this link
https://www.supremecourt.uk/visiting/court-sittings.html

This will be a live feed, there are 7 judges which shows the importance of this case.

Let us hope the court fully understands the implications to all motorists who fall foul of these rip off merchants. The Lords reacted to the Tax Credits, as they should do, hopefuly the 7 Lords at the Supreme Court will make the right decision to protect the motorist when it comes to Private Parking Companies and not let us down.

In the meantime, youtube is a great resource for seeing what others think and do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y1A5atYwTM
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2BPx7vF7oQ

beamerguy

When a PPC ignores you and you get a debt collectors letter

WATCH IT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx7PCURch8Q

beamerguy

Charlotterw wrote: »

Hi, newbie here. I received a UKCP ticket on my car yesterday. I recently started working at a business that has a UKCP car park, gave the company my reg number and have been fine for a couple of weeks. Unfortunately yesterday there were no spaces left in this car park so went and parked in a "loading area" (this is not marked as such) where other staff members park and where the wheelie bins live. I put a little note in the windscreen saying where I worked and figured if they ran a search on my number plate they would see I do in fact work there. Have a ticket, pay within 14 days to get it reduced etc etc however on closer inspection they have printed my reg number wrong, should be 04 and they've put 05. Where do I stand on this? I presume they can still find me from pictures however their paper work will have an incorrect reg number. Any advice would be great

Oh dear, these PPC's really are "short of a plank"

Sit on it, sooner or later these donkeys will try to get the info from the DVLA but how can they if the reg is wrong ???

They cannot issue another ticket for the same offence, recently a PPC was banned access to the DVLA for changing the time on a photo. The donkeys are deaf, dumb and blind
UKCP are without doubt the biggest donkey's in the parking industry. Charlotte play the waiting game, your reg as they have put it will probably not be on the DVLA database, although it might belong to any car owner from Aberdeen to Penzance

Nothing to do with you, you are 04 and they state 05.

Sleep tightly, you have nothing to fear from these known idiots

I will add this, recently a friend of mine got a ticket on a sunday. The ticket stated it was a certain colour. THEY WERE WRONG it was not that colour so a photo was requested to confirm it was the colour.
NO RESPONSE .... NO PHOTO ... INCORRECT INFORMATION
This was a council in Surrey ?? they are all at it nowadays to get extra income, but, they must have the correct facts otherwise they Fail

There is no doubt that PPC's including UKCP read these forums, they must see what complete idiots they are, sad to say that David Cameron does not intervene in this low life industry who belong in the sewers

Jim_AFCB

beamerguy wrote: »

Unlike Private Parking companies whose appeals service is pretty well guaranteed to fail. This includes POPLA, who feed off the PPC's so an appeal to succeed is highly unlikely. It is at this point that consumers end up paying and that is just want the PPC's want.

Amongst the other comments you have posted in this thread, the bit above is not true. Plenty of people win well-worded POPLA appeals. See the POPLA decisions thread at the top of this forum. The comments if aimed at IPC/IAS are fair however.

To anyone fairly new reading the above posts, you are better off reading the NEWBIES thread which has been prepared by members on here who are knowledgeable and experienced in private parking matters.

Umkomaas

Beavis like most of us do not and will not accept this so Mr Beavis has taken this to the Supreme Court and the case will be heard on the 4th November 2015 as shown on this link
https://www.supremecourt.uk/visiting/court-sittings.html

This will be a live feed, there are 7 judges which shows the importance of this case.

Way behind the curve here! The case was heard at the Supreme Court in July; 4 November is the day judgment will be handed down - the 7 Judges won't be hearing any more on this.

beamerguy

Umkomaas wrote: »

Way behind the curve here! The case was heard at the Supreme Court in July; 4 November is the day judgment will be handed down - the 7 Judges won't be hearing any more on this.

odd comment ... it is the judgment that matters ???

beamerguy

Jim_AFCB wrote: »

Amongst the other comments you have posted in this thread, the bit above is not true. Plenty of people win well-worded POPLA appeals. See the POPLA decisions thread at the top of this forum. The comments if aimed at IPC/IAS are fair however.

To anyone fairly new reading the above posts, you are better off reading the NEWBIES thread which has been prepared by members on here who are knowledgeable and experienced in private parking matters.

If you think that is correct, then those who have won via POPLA, please report here and how you won ..... will not be many will it.
Do you work for POPLA ???

Umkomaas

beamerguy wrote: »

If you think that is correct, then those who have won via POPLA, please report here and how you won ..... will not be many will it.
Do you work for POPLA ???

Try reading some of the c1,900 posts here:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4488337

And the 11 pages of threads here:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?act=SF&f=17

Coupon-mad

beamerguy wrote: »

If you think that is correct, then those who have won via POPLA, please report here and how you won ..... will not be many will it.
Do you work for POPLA ???

LOL, you haven't a clue. We've never lost at POPLA. I've never lost at POPLA and have submitted hundreds of appeals.