London Capital and Finance

Sledger

Botheredin wrote: »

It would seem unlikely but then again the link suggests that there is overlap and capability to charge both under criminal law and civil law / the companies act.Of course, whether any agency with the power and will to charge actually doing it remains to be seen..
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/fraud-act-2006

Surely from that link some of these apply

The Elements of the Offences
False representation
Untrue or misleading
Dishonestly
Gain or loss
Failure to disclose information
Establishing a legal duty
Abuse of a position
Possession or control
Article
Services
Obtains for himself or another
Evidence of spouse/partner (Section 3)

Botheredin

Sledger wrote: »

Surely from that link some of these apply

The Elements of the Offences
False representation
Untrue or misleading
Dishonestly
Gain or loss
Failure to disclose information
Establishing a legal duty
Abuse of a position
Possession or control
Article
Services
Obtains for himself or another
Evidence of spouse/partner (Section 3)

On the face of things it would appear so. I think the difficulty here is separating what may be a civil issue and what may be a criminal issue and the words above weave together establish which is which.

This link gives quite a good explanation https://www.rahmanravelli.co.uk/news/conspiracy-to-defraud-and-conspiracy-to-cheat/

Sledger

How do you get historic data on Companies House when you enter a persoms name to check the companies that person has as many of the LCF key players which showed companies now shows on Companies House as "having no appointments ".

Luckily I noted this company below which had a "P" in the {text removed by MSE Forum Team} along with dad which was incorporated with 50K and now dissolved

Is Filing a false name an offence



https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10159925
Company number 10159925 Dissolved on 6 February 2018
{text removed by MSE Forum Team}
Incorporation
Statement of capital on 2016-05-03
GBP 50,000
Model articles adopted

masonic

Botheredin wrote: »

On the face of things it would appear so. I think the difficulty here is separating what may be a civil issue and what may be a criminal issue and the words above weave together establish which is which.

One difficulty is proving dishonesty rather than incompetence or misunderstanding, and in proving intent. Another is pinning it on an individual.

Sledger wrote: »

Is Filing a false name an offence

It depends on whether it was done dishonestly and with the intention to mislead, or if it was a mistake.

The worst case of manipulation of Companies House records I've seen was this one. What a Change of Particulars.

Jelli

lol masonic. It could be a true reflection.

Botheredin

masonic wrote: »

The worst case of manipulation of Companies House records I've seen was this one. What a Change of Particulars.

At the risk of levity was this funding a lifestyle or a lifestyle choice?

masonic

Jelli wrote: »

lol masonic. It could be a true reflection.

The thought did cross my mind, but there are no known surgical procedures that can change someone's date of birth.

Sledger

{text removed by MSE Forum Team}

Who did he pay ???
About {text removed by MSE Forum Team}

{text removed by MSE Forum Team} holds 0 appointments at 0 active companies, has resigned from 5 companies and held 7 appointments at 7 dissolved companies. {text removed by MSE Forum Team} is not registered as holding any current appointments.
The combined cash at bank value for all businesses where {text removed by MSE Forum Team} holds a current appointment equals £0, a combined total current assets value of £0 with a total current liabilities of £0 and a total current net worth of £0. Roles associated with {text removed by MSE Forum Team} within the recorded businesses include: Llp Member, Director


And who did he not pay??

{text removed by MSE Forum Team}

Overview
{text removed by MSE Forum Team} is a Director from {text removed by MSE Forum Team}. This person was born in {text removed by MSE Forum Team}, which was over {text removed by MSE Forum Team}years ago.{text removed by MSE Forum Team} is British and resident in England. This company officer is, or was, associated with at least 12 company roles.
Companies associated with this officer had at least £19,863,402 shareholder value and £141,646 cash in recent accounts.

Their most recent appointment, in our records, was to ORACLE ASSET MANAGEMENT LLP on 2016-04-22.


So 19 million in 2016 would be a interesting update to Dec 2018

masonic

jimjames wrote: »

It appears that we're unable to even mention the names of those involved in LCF

I can't say whether it is the result of {text removed by MSE Forum Team} reporting of potentially libellous posts, but looking at yours and others' posts around the same time I feel the Forum Team is doing the minimum possible to comply with their obligations.

masonic

Sledger wrote: »

So 19 million in 2016 would be a interesting update to Dec 2018

It depends how much of it has been used as collateral against loans.
Edit: most recent accounts show a deficit of £6000 as at April 2017 for his latest venture, and (surprise surprise) last year's accounts are overdue. All his other companies are either dissolved or he's resigned as director. So, 19 million, if it was ever a credible valuation, is certainly far from the truth now.