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Where does a gas smart meter get its power from?

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  • FOREVER21
    FOREVER21 Posts: 1,729 Forumite
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    edited 22 October 2015 at 5:27PM
    The smart meter is not exclusively for the direct benefit of the end user. Ultimately, it will help the energy distributor to manage supply and demand (smart grids).

    There could be a differential standing charge for those who decide not to agree to the installation of the smart meter.



    I have nothing in principle against smart meters, but until they introduce a" universal" smart meter which can be used by any supplier as a smart meter, then I will stick to what I have.

    Of course I would need to reconsider if a surcharge was introduced for non - smart meters, but I personally think given the present slow roll out and the difficulty of installation of smart meters in high rise buildings that time is not imminent.
  • robj20
    robj20 Posts: 22 Forumite
    This is an interesting read. (new user so cant post the link)

    cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/meters-offswitch.pdf
  • FOREVER21 wrote: »

    Of course I would need to reconsider if a surcharge was introduced for non - smart meters, but I personally think given the present slow role out and the difficulty of installation of smart meters in high rise buildings that time is not imminent.

    I think that it would have been more rational for the energy distributors to manage the roll out of smart metering. Presumably, OFGEM chose to use the energy suppliers because the investment cost recovery model is easier avoiding the investment costs falling directly upon the tax payer.
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  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 23 October 2015 at 2:58PM
    GingerBob wrote: »

    I ve joined stopsmartmeters uk and they re sending me email invitations to a "getwired " event to listen to a few speakers. tickets are priced at £10 to £35 !! with a standard ticket at £25..This is to listen to some Yank rabbiting on about imaginary illnesses from smart meters.For that kind of money I want proper live entertainment with a 5 piece band and loud amps !
    Bit frightening to read about 1000s of smart meters catching fire tho !! that story seems to have missed the Daily Mail . I also dont have any faith in the "story " that British Gas are now ordering customers to accept a smart meter whether they want one or not. What a pack of lies coming out of this seedy little money grubbing website.
  • smjxm09
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    Well N Power are coming to me in around 4 weeks time to change both my meters. They say it will take around 2 hours.

    Their display unit which I can plug in anywhere looks like one of the better ones being given out http://www.npower.com/smartpower/smart-metering/index.htm
  • GingerBob_3
    GingerBob_3 Posts: 3,659 Forumite
    smjxm09 wrote: »
    Well N Power are coming to me in around 4 weeks time to change both my meters. They say it will take around 2 hours.

    Their display unit which I can plug in anywhere looks like one of the better ones being given out http://www.npower.com/smartpower/smart-metering/index.htm[/QUOTE]


    npower fitting SMART meters!!! The mind boggles! You sure you want to let npower loose with this? You have been warned :rotfl:
  • Peter333
    Peter333 Posts: 2,035 Forumite
    Jeffnospam wrote: »
    So I have been notified that like the rest of the country I am getting smart meters to replace my gas and electric meters.

    So the question is where does the gas meter get its power from to send the readings over a secure wireless network? I am assuming some sort of electrical feed will have to be run to the meter cupboard to power the meter.

    As people have said, you do not HAVE to swap to smart meters. If you're not sure, ring them and say 'no thank you!'
    matelodave wrote: »
    Why not - you need a meter so there's no reason why it shouldn't be a smart one. Hopefully you'll get accurate up to date bills rather than guesstimates. I wish I could get one to save me sending in readings every month.

    If you genuinely wish you could get smart meters, then ask your energy provider to supply you with them.

    And why do you have to send readings to your energy provider every month? Why do you send them at all? I have never given my energy provider a reading in my life. They come to read my meters every 3-4 months. I have a DD that is about 10% more than what I use (for electric and gas,) and I have a nice little pot of credit at the end of the year, which they refund to my bank account. What's more, why is it such a problem to send readings in anyway? :huh: What does it take, 10 seconds?

    What is the need for smart meters? It only benefits the supplier, not the customer. What need do you have to see how much electricity you're using to boil the kettle, or to have a shower? We have not known this - ever. We don't need to know it now.

    As far as I'm concerned; if it ain't broke don't fix it. I am happy with the meters I have and have nooooooo intention of changing! I have heard so many negative things about smart meters that I will take a LOT of convincing to change. And no I am not a member of the tin foil hat brigade; I just know that *I* don't need any smart meters. :cool:
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  • smjxm09
    smjxm09 Posts: 668 Forumite
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    edited 23 October 2015 at 6:15AM
    Well seeing that the meter is the property of the supplier if they want to change it then they have a right to change it. I really can't see why anyone would be upset at getting a new meter if it will end the scourge of estimated bills.

    Of all the problems and issues in the world this isn't one of them and I for one will welcome the ability to see what energy I am using while I am using it.
  • C_Mababejive
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    matelodave wrote: »
    Why not - you need a meter so there's no reason why it shouldn't be a smart one. Hopefully you'll get accurate up to date bills rather than guesstimates. I wish I could get one to save me sending in readings every month.

    But the vast majority of gas smart meters out there are actually inferential meters and not positive displacement.
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  • matelodave
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    But the vast majority of gas smart meters out there are actually inferential meters and not positive displacement.

    That's helpful:(
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