licence question

enfield_freddy

if a person now aged in his 60s had a provisional motorcycle licence many many years before the law was changed from a 250 to the 125cc rule and the introduction of the CBT, can he now in his later years ride a 125 with L plates without doing a CBT?


the person has progressed from a small bike on L plates , to a full car licence 40 odd yrs ago


this info (regarding before CBT) seems to be missing from the DVLA site

Moto2

No
He lost the right to ride a 250 back in 82(ish) and then needed to do CBT if he wanted to carry on riding a 125 a decade or so later.

At the time it was a 'do It' or stop riding

mrmechanic

No, he must sit a cbt and will need to renew it every 2 years.
He will only be able to ride a moped(49cc) without a cbt certificete

enfield_freddy

Moto2 wrote: »

No
He lost the right to ride a 250 back in 82(ish) and then needed to do CBT if he wanted to carry on riding a 125 a decade or so later.

At the time it was a 'do It' or stop riding

and was that instant ? this info seems to be missing in the SVLA history


just for simplicity , you apply and pay for a provisional licence (think we were on green ones then , ie 10 yr to renew) and they change the laws overnight , where refunds given?

Moto2

His only chance of avoiding it is if he passed a moped test before the rules came in - not many people did that though.

Moto2

and was that instant ?

no, there was a big lead up to it with a rush to get it done towards the end.

BigBopper

enfield_freddy wrote: »

and was that instant ? this info seems to be missing in the SVLA history


just for simplicity , you apply and pay for a provisional licence (think we were on green ones then , ie 10 yr to renew) and they change the laws overnight , where refunds given?

I remember them being green, but not needing to be renewed after ten years. Mind you I only had it a few weeks and can't say I really looked at the expiry date.

Moto2

The old green ones (my wife still has one) expire when you reach 70 IIRC

enfield_freddy

so is he still running on a valid licence? this makes no comments to CBT and clearly shows that the expiry of his licence , inc his motorcycle provisional is 70?

Moto2

Yes, the licence is valid, but only for groups that the current regs allow plus any grandad rights.

Bottom line, he needs to do a CBT to ride a 125 on the road

Johno100

Moto2 wrote: »

No
He lost the right to ride a 250 back in 82(ish) and then needed to do CBT if he wanted to carry on riding a 125 a decade or so later.

How did that work with the CBT not being introduced until 1990?