Seller lied on property questionaire - Electrical fire

sean1989_2

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Don't know what you mean by "always lets on morning and night"?? <puzzled 'r us>

Haha so in broader terms that means... he will always say "morning" or "good evening" and ask how we are

moneyistooshorttomention

sean1989 wrote: »

Haha so in broader terms that means... he will always say "morning" or "good evening" and ask how we are

Ah...right...positive then...:)

Dan-Dan

sean1989 wrote: »

To be honest we reported an incident the first week of moving in - i had long since forgot about that.

some guy in a blue car had pulled up and tried to enter the house ( fortunately we always lock the door)

he tried the handle many times - it was only when i opened the window and shouted that he jumped in the car and sped off.

I put this down to - someone may have known people were moving and it could have been the friendly neighbourhood thief thinking the house wasn't occupied and was after some things.......

Maybe the wool has been pulled well and truly over my eyes on this property - might go digging in the back garden

Regardless of assumptions though - im still more annoyed at their botched up jobs.

If home insurance don't pay out then were really in for some rough times !

Who knows what you might find , a tesco carrier bag and some bones possibly...

AdrianC

Dan-Dan wrote: »

Who knows what you might find , a tesco carrier bag and some bones possibly...

You wouldn't believe the amount of bones we found digging out veg patches in the back. Ribs, shoulders, vertebrae, legs. Two years later, they still surface.

Medium-sized dogs, I think, going by the size.

sean1989_2

it wouldnt even be worth it - even if i found human remains - the garden is actually quite sound other than the fact they fit guttering with no drain that floods the lawn...

i keep thinking positive in the entire matter - its nothing a bank loan wont fix if all else goes to pot!

stokesley

For anyone with a spare month or two, here's the thread alluded to in several posts:https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2636903


Enjoy!

sean1989_2

So the conveyancer has heard from the sellers solicitors and the response is worded very specifically
" The sellers have denied that there had been any problems with the property prior to completion"

Last i remember - i was accusing them of completing work on the property and not disclosing this.

My side of the conveyance team have said " As we are not licensed to carry out litigation work you may need to seek advice from an independent solicitor with regards to your allegations relating to work carried out on the property that were not declared on the property sellers questionnaire. "

it then states "However, if you assert that there has been a deliberate misrepresentation on the part of the seller, then this would be a legitimate matter for us to pursue with the sellers solicitor"

i cant help but feel this is contradiction here with their first statement

macman

If the house had an old Wylex or similar fuseboard with plug in MCB's, then the odds are that it was at least 40 years old, and the wiring of a similar age or even older. The number of sockets in an install of that age would be quite inadequate for modern requirements, there would be no RCD protection, and the lighting circuits might not be earthed. All perfectly legit at the time of install though. So you would have probably needed to rewire anyway, before you do any redecoration. If your insurers will contribute to that cost, you've got a result, though of course your premium will soar at renewal.
The reason that it's been recommended for a complete rewire is, in addition to the above, because the preliminary sparky's inspection has revealed so many criminal bodges that it is not possible to 'repair' it and then certify it as safe without ripping up boards and walls for every single yard of every single circuit. And when you've done that, you may as well rewire it anyway.
The hard reality is that, when you purchase a 50p can of coke from the corner shop, you are protected by numerous acts of consumer law. Yet, when you spend several £100K on a property, you are almost totally reliant on your own evaluation of it's condition, save for blatant misrepresentation. Caveat emptor indeed.

sean1989_2

macman wrote: »

If the house had an old Wylex or similar fuseboard with plug in MCB's, then the odds are that it was at least 40 years old, and the wiring of a similar age or even older. The number of sockets in an install of that age would be quite inadequate for modern requirements, there would be no RCD protection, and the lighting circuits might not be earthed. All perfectly legit at the time of install though. So you would have probably needed to rewire anyway, before you do any redecoration. If your insurers will contribute to that cost, you've got a result, though of course your premium will soar at renewal.
The reason that it's been recommended for a complete rewire is, in addition to the above, because the preliminary sparky's inspection has revealed so many criminal bodges that it is not possible to 'repair' it and then certify it as safe without ripping up boards and walls for every single yard of every single circuit. And when you've done that, you may as well rewire it anyway.
The hard reality is that, when you purchase a 50p can of coke from the corner shop, you are protected by numerous acts of consumer law. Yet, when you spend several £100K on a property, you are almost totally reliant on your own evaluation of it's condition, save for blatant misrepresentation. Caveat emptor indeed.

its crazy how much sense this means -

To be honest even if i dont choose to chase the legal route - i am going to take it to a paper to broaden the knowledge that people need when buying a property - so much isnt presented and its litterally all:

"BUY WHAT YOU SEE"

I suppose there could be a meth lab in the attic - chance to make a profit!

missprice

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

For right now - in your position I'd also be having a few casual conversations with neighbours (both the one they were having a dispute with and others) and see what information you can garner generally. Some of it will, doubtless, need taking with a pinch of salt - but you might be able to pick up a bit more info. on what these vendors were like.

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I am hoping to be enlightened by what use gossip will be in the event of a court case?
It wont get the electrics fixed, it won't stop the garden flooding etc, you can't use it in court (hearsay) the insurance co won't care, etc.
So its just gossip.

For Sean, you are simply not reading what is in front of you.
Buying a house is generally a huge purchase that takes 20 years + to pay off. When you make that kind of commitment, you do your best to make sure its decent ( or find out what's wrong with it and alter the value/expectations in line with problems)
I would estimate 95% of even FTB know full well to get a survey done off their own bat, because without that survey you have no idea as to the state of the house in general and you have no comeback if and when things go wrong.

You seem to see the previous owners as doing the wiring themselves, despite this being very unlikely, and trying to make your life hell.

Its been pointed out numerous times, it could well have been a cowboy job and they knew nothing. It could very well even be original wiring from when the house was built.
My current house had original 1937 wiring, it was noted by the surveyor that it looked old, I read every word of my 34 page report that cost hundreds of pounds.

Just because a whole load of work had to be done to make it habitable, a rewire was done too, but had I chosen to do a room at a time then I would have taken my informed chances.