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Britain and the EU

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  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Mistermeaner wrote: »
    Big business = jobs and prosperity = successful economy = happy people and nice place to live


    UK = More people work in SME's than for big business.
  • leveller2911
    leveller2911 Posts: 8,061 Forumite
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

    It's blatantly obvious to everyone that those facilities will have to be relocated to another country that is, you guessed it, still within the single market.

    Patronising after just a few posts......Must be a record for you.
  • Thrugelmir
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    leveller2911 wrote: »
    Norway seems like a good example of a country that is doing fine outside ..

    Ever been there? Comparisons to the UK are meaningless.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    why would a company make such a stupid decision?

    You think it's a stupid decision to base an EU manufacturing or HQ facility for the single market, within the single market, or you think it's stupid to move your facility that you have decided needs to be within the single market back into the single market if it suddenly became outside the single market.

    Is there something about the advantages of locating within the single market that you don't understand?
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • leveller2911
    leveller2911 Posts: 8,061 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Ever been there? Comparisons to the UK are meaningless.

    Can't say I have Thrug so happy to hear your experience.


    Can't be any worse than Belgium. :D
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    leveller2911 wrote: »
    No I don't believe free movement of labour was ever a good idea and should be stopped.

    So then you don't want the Norwegian model at all.

    Why keep mentioning it then?
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Mistermeaner
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    UK = More people work in SME's than for big business.

    Remove big

    And anyway that is not my opinion I was referring to why the approach of the pro union has started out as it has
    Left is never right but I always am.
  • leveller2911
    leveller2911 Posts: 8,061 Forumite
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »
    So then you don't want the Norwegian model at all.

    Why keep mentioning it then?


    I , like you Hamish look up facts and figures but unlike you I admit theres more to life than facts and figures..
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    leveller2911 wrote: »
    I , like you Hamish look up facts and figures but unlike you I admit theres more to life than facts and figures..

    In other words you're quite happy to sacrifice the prosperity of the country and it's people for a country with fewer immigrants.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    edited 12 October 2015 at 10:18PM
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »
    The right to live and work in 26 other EU countries. ;)

    Only if we leave the EEA.

    That's not what is being proposed.

    Switzerland is neither in the EU or the EEA, but still holds rights for it's citizens to live and work within the EU.

    So, to keep on track - is there anything else you can offer which we would definately lose the benefit off should we leave the EU? (that's EU, not EEA). Ribbing aside, you are obviously passionate about the EU and the reasons for staying. All I'm doing is trying to look at these reasons.

    The problem is, no one can seemingly actually give them, other than it's good for business.
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