5p bag charge - your views

A._Badger

Norman_Castle wrote: »

Mainly by people who will now have to spend a small amount each year on bin liners.:eek:

Even sidestepping the gaping logical chasm you created for yourself (if people now have to buy bin liners to replace shopping carriers, the net difference in waste is zero) your comment is a mile wide of the mark.
What irks people is the inconvenience with no reasonable cause.

What has happened is that, on the back of a tiny pimple of an issue in the great scheme of things, a tidal wave of Green sanctimoniousness has reached its inevitable conclusion in reports, accounting, compulsion-with-legal-teeth and all the rest of the fun that comes about when zealots get bees in their bonnets.

There are really serious issues about the relationship between man and the environment, many of them potentially deadly. In a rational assessment, the use of plastic shopping bags probably wouldn't even make it into the top 500.

It's virtue signalling - a cause to rally round for the pious and exactly the sort of thing cynical politicians and bureaucrats love to toss to people to make them think they are 'doing something'.

System

teddysmum wrote: »

According to the press, most clothing outlets will not have to charge as they provide heavier quality bags, while the legislation covers single use bags ,defined by their density.

Even still, I am more than happy to pay 5p for a bag if I am buying expensive items of clothing.

I had one thicko customer today that says she rather not pay 5p for a bag for a £80 coat and more than happy to pay for bags for £80 food shopping,

Erm, she would need more than one carrier bag - guessing 7-8 more for £80 food shopping. Unless she is buying saffron, truffle oil and caviar.

LABMAN

My veg. peelings go in my food recycling bin so there's no smell issue with my rubbish bin.

A._Badger

LABMAN wrote: »

My veg. peelings go in my food recycling bin so there's no smell issue with my rubbish bin.

What was I just saying about virtue signalling?

Nick_C

ScarletMarble wrote: »

I had one thicko customer today that says she rather not pay 5p for a bag for a £80 coat and more than happy to pay for bags for £80 food shopping.

Not the first time you have shown your utter disdain for the customers who provide the money that keeps your employer in business. Have you ever considered that you might be in the wrong job?

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What will happen to all the charities and good causes that do bag packs to raise money at the checkout?

Boom!

LABMAN

A._Badger wrote: »

What was I just saying about virtue signalling?

I've not a clue what your talking about? If the intention of the 5p charge was to reduce plastic bags in landfill it's worked as far as my household and many of my neighbours as well. Not a bad thing in my eyes.

System

LABMAN wrote: »

My veg. peelings go in my food recycling bin so there's no smell issue with my rubbish bin.

My council doesn't do waste food recycling. The previous council I used to live did it, but scrapped it as only about a quarter used it and then, people put things in it which weren't on the 'yes please' list. So proved a waste of money.

Nick_C

ScarletMarble wrote: »

My council doesn't do waste food recycling. The previous council I used to live did it, but scrapped it as only about a quarter used it and then, people put things in it which weren't on the 'yes please' list. So proved a waste of money.

Food waste recycling is expensive. The government has scrapped national performance indicators and the Landfill Allowance Trading Scheme. Its understandable that some councils now consider low spending to be more desirable than high recycling rates.

Norman_Castle

A._Badger wrote: »

Even sidestepping the gaping logical chasm you created for yourself (if people now have to buy bin liners to replace shopping carriers, the net difference in waste is zero) your comment is a mile wide of the mark.
What irks people is the inconvenience with no reasonable cause.

What has happened is that, on the back of a tiny pimple of an issue in the great scheme of things, a tidal wave of Green sanctimoniousness has reached its inevitable conclusion in reports, accounting, compulsion-with-legal-teeth and all the rest of the fun that comes about when zealots get bees in their bonnets.

There are really serious issues about the relationship between man and the environment, many of them potentially deadly. In a rational assessment, the use of plastic shopping bags probably wouldn't even make it into the top 500.

It's virtue signalling - a cause to rally round for the pious and exactly the sort of thing cynical politicians and bureaucrats love to toss to people to make them think they are 'doing something'.

Many of these bags won't be reused as bin liners or anything else. What irks some people is having to pay for something they previously got for free.