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  • cookie365 wrote: »
    From Linux Mint? Your Google skills are obviously better than mine!

    From Opensuse I can Google and find W10 for £0.00 ;)
    Science isn't exact, it's only confidence within limits.
  • happyhero
    happyhero Posts: 1,277 Forumite
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    ok go here and run a scan on your memory (already fitted) http://uk.crucial.com/gbr/en/systemscanner?gclid=CjwKEAjwyemvBRDFpN3E5_bs9BQSJAA5n8L2d--5V2VhXSoCunNwb09B6N3DCpdNuAtig7uQLcIxNBoCNa3w_wcB&cm_mmc=google-_-uk-_-dram-_-null&ef_id=VeLLwQAABCykoiK1:20150917211915:s


    it will tell you the max your machine can take and also what is fitted and if you have any empty slots


    hard drive : I have now started just fitting a 128g for customers , they then use there old drive as file storage , a 128g ssd (example) £34 http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00A1ZTZNM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_15&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE


    and a copy of windows 7 , and you have cracked it


    unplug your old drive , run win 7 , then update to win 10 , also d/load the dvd or pendrive version , once your board has been registerd by Microsoft , reboot , wipe and reformat the new ssd , load windoze , turn off reconnect your old drive , and copy any data temporally over to the ssd , format the old drive then copy data files back over , ok , its a long job , but might save you well over £650


    Cheers for that, I've installed and run the scanner but not sure on results, it says


    Your MSI (Micro Star) MS-7502

    system specs as shipped

    icon-memory.png
    memory

    • Maximum memory: 4096MB
    • Slots:4 (2 banks of 2)
    *Not to exceed manufacturer supported memory

    then it shows 4 slots, 2 empty and 2 with 2GB DDR PC2-5300 in each, does that mean I can only have 4 GB ram maximum, I was under impression can't remember where from that I could go up to 8GB max?

    Isn't 4GB going to be too little?

    Also you say in your instructions "Unplug your old drive and run win 7" where are you installing it if its unplugged, is this assuming the SSD is now fitted?

    Plus you then say wipe the SSD, why do you do that, why not now leave the Win 10 on there?

    Why do you say download the DVD/Pendrive version?

    Sorry not playing dumb just not as knowledgeable on this as you and don't understand the reasons for the above.
  • enfield_freddy
    enfield_freddy Posts: 6,147 Forumite
    edited 18 September 2015 at 12:19AM
    ok it looks like your motherboard can only accept 4g of memory


    I said to unplug your old drive to save your data and for speed of installs , it will be a lot faster on a SSD drive ,


    the reason I said to wipe the drive and re install , is that I "prefer" a clean install of win 10 , the way to do a clean install of win 10 is to download it onto a dvd of pendrive , link to a clean ISO file https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10


    you can d/load and prepare your stick/dvd from within your new win 10




    edit: this link on your board number says 8g max http://msi-53.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/msi-medion-ms-7502-intel-g33-fsb-1333.html
  • happyhero
    happyhero Posts: 1,277 Forumite
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    Thanks but I'm confused about the ram, the scan tells me what my motherboard is and then says maximum of 4GB but Googling the motherboard says maximum of 8GB, which one is correct, with the Googling I let that scan too, see here

    http://www.mrmemory.co.uk/scanner/microsoft-windows

    it gave me this

    http://www.mrmemory.co.uk/memory-ram-upgrades/msi-micro-star/motherboard/ms-7502?scanner=MEDIONPC+MS-7502

    Any ideas?
  • when you ran that , what did it say
  • happyhero
    happyhero Posts: 1,277 Forumite
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    Maximum Memory: 8GB
  • happyhero
    happyhero Posts: 1,277 Forumite
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    Just putting my motherboard details in google without bothering with a scan comes up max 8GB
  • NiftyDigits
    NiftyDigits Posts: 10,459 Forumite
    Haven't we been here before?

    You can't keep going over the same thing. £21 for the RAM. £30 for Windows 7, as shown above. £50 to £75 for the SSD.

    I vaguely recall an issue with that Motherboard in booting up with both an SSD and an HDD connected. But I needed to ascertain the specific version of firmware installed, as this can both lead to solving that issue and allow the installation of 8GB of RAM. I think you gave up around then. In needed this too as well as the BIOS string requested in that thread.
    But even without this, you'll see a big improvement with a clean install of Windows 7 64 bit and the SSD drive alone.
  • Fightsback
    Fightsback Posts: 2,504 Forumite
    Haven't we been here before?

    You can't keep going over the same thing.

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results. :)
    Science isn't exact, it's only confidence within limits.
  • happyhero
    happyhero Posts: 1,277 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts
    Haven't we been here before?

    You can't keep going over the same thing. £21 for the RAM. £30 for Windows 7, as shown above. £50 to £75 for the SSD.

    I vaguely recall an issue with that Motherboard in booting up with both an SSD and an HDD connected. But I needed to ascertain the specific version of firmware installed, as this can both lead to solving that issue and allow the installation of 8GB of RAM. I think you gave up around then. In needed this too as well as the BIOS string requested in that thread.
    But even without this, you'll see a big improvement with a clean install of Windows 7 64 bit and the SSD drive alone.

    Hi NiftyDigits, I'm glad your back and yes you are right, something big came up before and I had to regretfully hold off what I was doing then but now I want to progress fully with this.

    I am worried others keep mentioning drivers for everything still being available but if you think this is no real concern then I will go ahead with this providing the last bit of info you wanted is ok.

    I currently do not have any SSD drives, I am pretty sure they are SATA drives.

    As for the details you said you wanted, there is no number on the back of the PC other than the Windows Vista label but this is the model I have Medion Akoya P7300D http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/70720-medion-akoya-p7300d-desktop-pc

    I looked for the BIOS string but could not find it, can you guide me any further with finding this, getting into the BIOS is no trouble but finding the string it does not appear anywhere obvious to me.

    Sorry NiftyDigits for my past disappearance and your patience it was not planned at all but rather a nuisance to me.
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