Corbyn effect! Re-nationalising! At last some sense!!!

ukcarper

gadgetmind wrote: »

Without privatisation, we'd still have 1960s telecoms in the UK to this day. When every other 1st world country had push button phones, tone dialing, redial, and much more, we still have bakelite 'phones with pulse dialing.

And remember the days of red dots and green dots? The red dot 'phones were better, and cheaper, but couldn't legally be plugged into those precious Post Office sockets (if you were lucky enough to even have a socket!)

Seeing how the first digital exchange was opened in 1980 and BT was privatised in 1984 how do you reach that conclusion.

ukcarper

gadgetmind wrote: »

Maybe things got better after they got rid of you?

From what I can tell they have got worse and the pre historic digital exchanges that the pre nationalised BT is still in use 10 years after they should have been replaced.

Graham_Devon

gadgetmind wrote: »

Without privatisation, we'd still have 1960s telecoms in the UK to this day.

Do you honestly believe that?

Presumably the NHS are still using instruments that look like torture devices and not those nice shiny CT scanners etc you see around Europe?

gadgetmind

ukcarper wrote: »

Seeing how the first digital exchange was opened in 1980

We certainly didn't get tone dialling until well into the mid 80s even in the centre one of the UK's largest cities, so it was too late, too slow, and well behind those countries with telecoms in private hands. Competition spurs progress, as if you don't remain competitive, you die.

ukcarper

gadgetmind wrote: »

We certainly didn't get tone dialling until well into the mid 80s even in the centre one of the UK's largest cities, so it was too late, too slow, and well behind those countries with telecoms in private hands. Competition spurs progress, as if you don't remain competitive, you die.

Of coarse you can convert over 5000 exchanges to digital over night.

The first digital exchange to come on line was in France by the then government owned France Telecom.

CLAPTON

ukcarper wrote: »

Of coarse you can convert over 5000 exchanges to digital over night.

no, of course not: the unions wouldn't allow it
and politiicians would have an interest depending upon when elections were due

Thrugelmir

whitegoods_engineer wrote: »

We all know of inefficiencies in, for example, the NHS, and the right-wing press are always talking about it. However, the privatised energy market makes the NHS look positively efficient!

The two organisations are simply not comparable for a whole variety of reasons.

ukcarper

CLAPTON wrote: »

no, of course not: the unions wouldn't allow it
and politiicians would have an interest depending upon when elections were due

The BT unions co-operated fully in the modernisation of the network. Do you have any idea of how much work is involved in installing a new digital exchange, then integrating it into the network and transferring lines to it I suspect not.

chewmylegoff

missbiggles1 wrote: »

Why is that a good thing?

How many people can afford to live permanently in the London area on a salary that low (even with free travel)?

At least enough to drive all of london's buses, it seems.

Marktheshark

He can promise the moon on a stick and a goose that lays golden eggs.
He is not in power, its 5 years of Conservatives.