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And the Warning Notice provided!
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which states:
This car park is managed by Secure a Space.
CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT
You are parking in a 24 Hour Protected Parking Zone
This Private Land is for the Parking of Motor Vehicles. By parking outside of a Marked or Allocated Bay and/or Not Clearly Displaying a Valid Permit which must be displayed in windscreen of vehicle or authorised by site management will result in the Driver Agreeing to Pay a Parking Charge Notice of £100.00 reduced to £60.00 if Full Payment is received within 14 Days
CHARGES IN OPERATION 24 HRS/DAY, 7 DAYS/WEEK
Registered keeper details may be requested from the DVLA if the parking charges remain unpaid after 28 days. Additional charges for late payment may apply from debt collection and court costs.
Do not park or leave your vehicle unattended here unless you understand and agree to all the above contractual terms and conditions
For Credit/Debit Payments go to wxw.secureaspace.zatpay.com
Postal Payments to Secure a Space Ltd, Hubbard Way, 2 Civic Drive, Ipswich, IP1 2QA
Registration No. 9301673
see secureaspace.co,uk for further information0 -
bump....
anyone?0 -
Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street0 -
What Im asking is the same question I asked from the start - I know each case is unique. The Newbie thread provides a template to respond, but says it is not for Secure a Space!
If no time to 'dig out flaws' in paperwork, just use our appeal example unless your PCN was from these where you will certainly need to start a new thread:
'Secure -a-Space'
So I want to now respond to this offer of contract, but wasnt sure if the response was appropriate.
It has now been 24 days since ticket was issued.0 -
I think the way that the section in the newbies thread that you highlight is perhaps open to miss interpretation ....
It is not saying (IMHO) do not use the template for 'secue-a-space , but that before attempting to appeal to them post up a new thread first.
You are not the first to take this interpretation .........
have you taken the time to forum search for secure a space ?
if not then please do so ........ there are a few good examples of as to how others have proceeded......
if no further advice is forthcoming then send appeal as is ...
get POPLA code ....
research defense ...
then win...
good luck
Ralph:cool:0 -
Date
Dear Sirs
Re: PCN No. ....................
I challenge this 'PCN' as keeper of the car, on these main grounds:
a). The sum is disproportionate, does not represent a genuine pre-estimate of loss, nor is it a core price term.
b) The sum is extravagant and unconscionable and cannot be justified.
c). There is no evidence that you have any interest in the land. I will complain to the landowner about your aggressive ticketing. (I have sent complaint to Comer Homes the landowner - registered signed for post - no response as yet
d). Your 'Notice' fails to comply with the POFA so there can be no keeper liability. Is that so? How does it not?
e). I believe that the signs were not seen/are ambiguous and the predominant purpose is to deter so there is no contract to pay this charge, which is a penalty.
Formal challenge
There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. You must either rely on the POFA 2012 or cancel the charge. I will only appeal further if you offer POPLA, the only independent ADR with a scrutiny panel and trained Assessors. The 'IAS' offered by IPC firms will not be used, for well-documented reasons.
''Drop hands'' offer
The charge is baseless but I realise that you may have nominal postage costs. Equally, I have incurred costs for responding to your junk mail dressed up to mimic a parking ticket. It is clear that my costs and yours, at this point, do not exceed £15 so this is a formal “drop hands” offer. I remind you of the duty to mitigate any loss, so withdraw the spurious charge within 35 days and I will not pursue you for my costs.
Breach of CCRs
I hereby give notice of withdrawal from this alleged 'contract' which was never properly offered nor expressly agreed. This 'contract' is cancelled and any obligations now end.
I have kept proof of submission of this appeal and look forward to your reply.
Yours faithfully,
I just want to know if the key points of this letter are relevant to the case in point.0 -
d) Even a well-established PPC like Parking Eye struggles to issue PoFA-compliant NTKs ... eejits like Secure-a-Space probably can't even spell PoFA.
You don't need to identify why (in the initial appeal anyway, although it's useful to highlight the breaches at POPLA), they need to prove they do.0 -
@memsie80 any luck with this? Im in the same situation!0
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I've just started to follow this forum and thread as I have received a number of tickets from Secure A Space at a Comer managed development for parking in my allocated space but without a permit
Any update @Memsie80 ?
I applied to the management company for a permit just over two weeks ago and still receiving tickets even though my landlord has paid for a new permit which I have not received yet.
After reading various posts in this forum I've checked my lease and no mention of a permit being required, only parking a private motor vehicle in allocated space.
So far two appeals rejected.
I'll do some further research on this forum then create a new thread if necessary.0
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