Economic Living Is The Exercise

marrbett

zagubov wrote: »

That macbook is a later version of the one I'm using right now. It's a very enjoyable computer to use, but the specs are a bit low (but then again the price is too and it's got a warranty). There's loads of current software works on it, but it probably can't be updated to the most modern version of Mac OS. Facetime, Skype, Dropbox, Spotify, Office 2011, will all run. Most printers will work with it. It'll probably play CDs and DVDs. Won't play games but that's a plus as far as I'm concerned if I'm giving it to someone who needs to study.

Thanks, thats really helpful too.xx

Busylizzie

karlie88 wrote: »

Here's your answer:



Look at the top red circle. A 2nd year junior doc earns the lower amount, whilst an 8th year junior doc earns the higher amount. About 300 hours per month. We also have to pay a £400 yearly registration fee, £500 a year for a defence union, £1000/year on examinations, £500 for courses...money which we pay ourselves.

The lower red circle (£50k) is highlighting a position of what a physician associate can earn - which is basically a non-doctor (i.e. they have no medical degree and are not called a 'dr') who has to go through every patient they see with a qualified doctor. Another great idea by the government to fill in the gaps within the NHS...

Karlie can you explain a bit more about a Physician Associate please

Edit: thanks Silvercar for the link

Sunshinemummy

MKS wrote: »

Thanks for your input. I really wanted Karlie to answer my question on salary as opposed to take home pay. Cannot understand why she wouldn't be upfront about it when she bought it up. We all have stoppages. Didn't ask for any other reason than for a balanced viewpoint.

My DS used to say that he only earned xyz and I would say that, no you don't, you earn xyz+. He would reply that the government take the + from him. Had to say to him 'welcome to the real world, we all pay taxes etc'.

A lot of people work 'overtime' without any extra pay.

Please do not get me wrong, I think that the NHS staff do a brilliant job. Over the last year, I have seen that at first hand. I think that all jobs are equally worthwhile. For example - Without the cleaners at the hospital, patients are at risk.

No offence meant to anyone.

Very true, and definitely no offence taken. x

karlie88 wrote: »

You have your opinion - I have mine.

However, please don't judge when you haven't been a British educated junior doctor who's working ridiculous hours per week with a such a large responsibility on our young shoulders.

British doctors are leaving this country for this very reason. The Government are struggling to bring in more doctors from other countries. There are huge gaps within the NHS and it's only going to get bigger.

So the next time you struggle to get a GP appointment, have a 6+ hour wait in A&E, a cancelled outpatient appointment, a cancelled outpatient scan/investigation or wait 12 hours to be seen by a junior doctor when you're an inpatient - just think, why?

Within my posts I accept that junior doctors work very hard.

We are part of the EU, with free movement of labour. So doctors are more likely to move around (I rather like the idea of the UK training doctors that are helping around the world).

Long waits for hospitals have always been an issues, I remember a friend had to have a hysterectomy - the appointment to see the specialist was over 12 months wait (this was in 1989). There has been massive progress made, structural changes and investments made that means this is no longer an issue, and I do believe that we have a wonderful health system, but it is unrealistic to consider that people will not have to wait for assessment/treatment without a massive increase in taxation and in todays fiscal climate this is not going to happen and the doctors will have their wages/terms and conditions reduced just like the rest of the people who work for government organisations. x

wackynut

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

Good morning wacky, lovely to see you

Morning Enterprise.

Nannylala wrote: »

Am good thankyou wacky and am going to have NSD today and spend the day in the garden in this beautiful Sunshine ....lawns need mowing and lots of plants need putting to bed for the winter:(Might even manage lunch Alfresco

Glad you're well. Have a lovely day in your garden.
I'm probably going to have a nsd too and then off to my cousins 50th birthday party tonight.

Sunshinemummy

heol wrote: »

If the government spent less billions on building battleships and bombs and redirected the money into health and community services the world would be a better place.

:T:T:T:T:T:T:T:T:T (or on the bankers.... but we did re-elected the Conservatives)

bargainqueen8

diluvsdiscounts wrote: »

Good luck with the healthy eating i need to join you I have gained three stone since my diagnosis. The first stone was me consoling myself I think and the next two stone were because I was constantly starving on my steroids. My treatment changes next Wednesday and thankfully there are no steroids with this one so hopefully I won't be eating us out of house and home so I should be OK.
We got ourselves a dog this week he is gorgeous TWEETS you are going to love him. I will try to work out how you post a photograph on here and show you later! So he will make me get lots of excercise:j

carn`t help with your c&c probs as i have never done one but looking forward to seeing a photo of your new family member.dogs are a great comfort on low days and as you say great for making you get out when you dont feel like it.,i hope your new treatment goes well.:)

Enterprise_1701C

We have long waits for appointments round here.

I am stepping very carefully here, sensitive subject and all that, but one of the problems around here is with immigrants that seem to think they do not need to learn English. Therefore they require longer appointments and interpreters that have to be paid for by us.

If they wish to come here and use our health service, education service etc, they could at least do us the courtesy of learning the language of the country they live in.

I am not looking for comments on this, just another side to what Karlie is saying.

Sunshinemummy

redrose1414 wrote: »

Karlie88,
I qualify as a nurse in April (I'm currently on my sign off placement) and as an 'insider' ie seeing it first hand and not in the media, I am completely with you.
Good luck in your career, I hope you don't get driven out, stick in there.

Redrose, the government have been reducing your wages for years. Good luck in your new career x

silvercar wrote: »

Really interesting. I had never seen the title physician associate before. looking on the NHS careers website it requires a 2.1 life science degree followed by 2 years post graduation course. So not to be sniffed at.

It is madness.

Enterprise_1701C

I cannot quote heol as he is on ignore but his statement

"If the government spent less billions on building battleships and bombs and redirected the money into health and community services the world would be a better place."

is quite ridiculous.

Russia is looking to annex anyone they can get their hands on at the moment. We would be unprotected. We would be Russian, or Argentinian.

Sunshinemummy

Physician associate

Physician associate

Physician associates support doctors in the diagnosis and management of patients. They are trained to perform a number of roles including:

taking medical histories
performing examinations
diagnosing illnesses
analysing test results
developing management plans.

I thought that this was what a lot of nurses who had progressed into specialisms did.