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Lack of publicity over England's shops charging 5p a bag

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  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
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    umm , no don,t charge for them , if the northern Ireland government want to , then let them ,




    " Cannot see the sense in picking and choosing who should and should not sell them "


    not picking and choosing , its clearly defined "if you employ MORE THAN 250 PEOPLE.


    simple instructions , no picking and choosing


    however it could easily add 30p on to the average shoping bill at asda etc

    All you do is nab bags for life when free/cheap.
    no further cost.
  • yup , upto now , lidl and farmfoods next door to each other , always remember (as well as extra shopping ) sugar , farmfoods 39p lidl 49p , milk , farmfoods £1 , lidl 89p , farmfoods first , grab 2 or 3 bags , back to car then go into lidl with your free bags


    I wonder how many employees farmfoods have?
  • Torry_Quine
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    teddysmum wrote: »
    There will be some unhygienic smelly bins, as not everyone will buy bin liners (or carrier bags) and so toss unwrapped rubbish into the bin.


    Newspaper could be used, but then that won't be available for recycling.

    Although I have a bag in my kitchen bin not all my rubbish is wrapped before going into the wheelie bin and don't see the need! Why would it be unhygienic as it isn't handled by anyone?:j
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  • JReacher1
    JReacher1 Posts: 4,661 Forumite
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    the average independent off licence buys bags at approx. from 1p each from the main cash n carries , those are the plain white/blue etc and suitable for holding / lifting 8 x cans of beer (500ml each)


    just checked our invoices , we buy a "heavy duty" bag the cost is £20 per 1000 , this is 2p each , delivered


    It seems more hassle than it's worth.

    I understand that some people don't like to use single use bags for environmental reasons (which I admire), but if you prefer to use single use bags I think the vast majority of people will prefer to pay 5p per bag as opposed to bulk buying 1000 bags to save 3p a bag!
  • bluebeary
    bluebeary Posts: 7,904 Forumite
    if you ask your employers they will tell you that the signs go up in due course, might be a month or two weeks notice, cant remember how long it was here in Scotland

    the levy goes to the government and in no way do the actual business benefit from this levy, it applies to single use bags and as with our companies single use bags being paper due to our recycling policies, the money goes to a specific charity
  • JReacher1
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    bluebeary wrote: »
    if you ask your employers they will tell you that the signs go up in due course, might be a month or two weeks notice, cant remember how long it was here in Scotland

    the levy goes to the government and in no way do the actual business benefit from this levy, it applies to single use bags and as with our companies single use bags being paper due to our recycling policies, the money goes to a specific charity

    Does the levy go to the government? Someone posted a link which said the money went to the store and they were "expected" to donate the profit to charity.
  • Gers
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    bluebeary wrote: »
    if you ask your employers they will tell you that the signs go up in due course, might be a month or two weeks notice, cant remember how long it was here in Scotland

    the levy goes to the government and in no way do the actual business benefit from this levy, it applies to single use bags and as with our companies single use bags being paper due to our recycling policies, the money goes to a specific charity


    In Scotland the regulations state that:
    How should you spend the money raised?

    The net proceeds of the charge belong to your business, however Scottish Government is keen to see these donated to good causes.

    In England the regulations are:
    Reasonable costs

    Reasonable costs include new costs incurred to comply with the legislation. This might include:

    the cost of changing till systems
    training staff
    communicating the policy to staff and customers
    getting expert advice
    administering donations to good causes

    You can’t include existing costs, such as the cost of the bags. You’re likely to see reasonable costs significantly reduce after the first year.
    Dealing with the proceeds

    Once you’ve deducted reasonable costs, it’s expected that you’ll donate all proceeds to good causes.

    No legal requirement to pass the monies onto either the government or charity.
  • The-Truth
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    ]Food poisoning cases have increased since similar rules were introduced in the US as people are using a bag for fresh meats one day, then using the same bag for cooked meats or salad items the next.

    Can you provide a creditable link for this. There's just something about this that makes me doubt.
  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
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    Nothing to do with organisation. I re-use plastic bags to clear up after our dogs and am quite happy to pay for them, but can buy them cheaper than 5p.

    I also prefer single use bags for shopping as it helps to prevent cross contamination of food. Food poisoning cases have increased since similar rules were introduced in the US as people are using a bag for fresh meats one day, then using the same bag for cooked meats or salad items the next.

    and yet not in Scotland?
  • JReacher1 wrote: »
    It seems more hassle than it's worth.

    I understand that some people don't like to use single use bags for environmental reasons (which I admire), but if you prefer to use single use bags I think the vast majority of people will prefer to pay 5p per bag as opposed to bulk buying 1000 bags to save 3p a bag!



    you obviously did not read my post , I just told you the cost TO THE COMPANY , I did NOT suggest that the end user (customer) should go out and buy bags in 1000 boxes.


    it is accepted by small businesses , that you keep your customer happy , and by charging them 5p for a carrier bag for goods they have bought from you , would make the customer go to the next shop that offered similar prices and bagged your goods
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