Why do some cyclists use the entire lane, use fog horns, and flashing lights?????????

Norman_Castle

prowla wrote: »

It's good to see that the cyclist in the above is keeping left, as the Highway Code stipulates.

Its also good to see the car overtaking safely. If cycling and approaching a pinch point would you move into the primary position if needed for your safety.

Norman_Castle

prowla wrote: »

The HC does not specify a multi lane carriageway, so therefore the keep left is a general rule.

I think you're misinterpreting the keep left instruction. Its no different to driving on the left in the UK or using the left hand lane where possible. Its an instruction regarding road position but not lane position.

trinidadone

prowla wrote: »

It's good to see that the cyclist in the above is keeping left, as the Highway Code stipulates.

Actually I was going to type a similar message. here, you can see clearly the cyclist is cycling left, within the lane.

trinidadone

Norman_Castle wrote: »

The highways are free to use for all. Motoring costs are irrelevant. Motoring taxes are revenue raising, not a charge, toll or fee to use the roads. The highways are funded through general taxation paid by all.

petrol costs, congestion charge (london), insurance prem, MOT, service charge, wear and tear, cost of vehicles, green taxes, parking charges, pay and display, garages, permits etc....

Marco_Panettone

trinidadone wrote: »

petrol costs, congestion charge (london), insurance prem, MOT, service charge, wear and tear, cost of vehicles, green taxes, parking charges, pay and display, garages, permits etc....

So what? These are costs for using the VEHICLE and parking the VEHICLE. They are not some sort of payment to use the roads. You can use these roads on a bike, or by foot without any of those costs. YOU choose to drive, and thus the associated costs.


Bikes aren't free, you know...


This seemed to be going so well yesterday.

trinidadone

Marco_Panettone wrote: »

So what? These are costs for using the VEHICLE and parking the VEHICLE. They are not some sort of payment to use the roads. You can use these roads on a bike, or by foot without any of those costs. YOU choose to drive, and thus the associated costs.


Bikes aren't free, you know...


This seemed to be going so well yesterday.

usually vehicles and roads tend to go together, unless the vehicle is going to be used on the payment? I did not suggest bikes were or were not free??? what do you mean "this seemed to be going so well yesterday"???

Marco_Panettone

Well, yesterday there was conversation. There were questions, and answers. You seemed genuinely interested in learning something.


Today you challenge what you've already been told, and seem to justify this by posting a list of things that you (and I, and anyone else who chooses to own and use a motor vehicle) pay for. You include 'wear and tear' and 'vehicle cost' as things people with bikes don't also have to cover.


If you have any sensible points or genuine questions people here will answer them. If you don't, maybe you have something better to do with your day?

prowla

Norman_Castle wrote: »

I think you're misinterpreting the keep left instruction. Its no different to driving on the left in the UK or using the left hand lane where possible. Its an instruction regarding road position but not lane position.

No, it simply says to keep left; it does not mention lanes or any other interpretation you wish to add to it.

The wording is quite clear.

RichardD1970

prowla wrote: »

The HC does not specify a multi lane carriageway, so therefore the keep left is a general rule.

Of course, it does not mean you have to drive in the gutter scraping long the pavement, and indeed doing that would mean you were batting pedestrians out of the way with your handlebars!

But as the above picture shows, the HC intends the responsible cyclist to keep left on a single carriageway.

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on that point then, but I and most cyclists will still ride in the appropriate position in our lane. If that isn't far enough to the left for you then sorry, but it is what is advised by the government.

Marco_Panettone

prowla wrote: »

No, it simply says to keep left; it does not mention lanes or any other interpretation you wish to add to it.

The wording is quite clear.

Yes - "keep left" as opposed to "drive on the right" like they do in other countries.


It is "keep left of the centre line of the road". Sometimes there's a marked line, sometimes not, but it just means "don't drive/ride on the right hand side of the road".


I can't actually believe this needs spelling out...